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Duke Tobin on draft
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(04-20-2023, 07:19 PM)tms Wrote: Oh don't get me wrong- I agree it's (waaaay) too early to write him off. But can't deny he's had virtually zero impact to date... to the point that I've seen safeties commonly mocked to the Bengals to "play alongside Nick Scott." As far as the league is concerned he almost doesn't exist. 

I get the reasons, and some of them are valid, but I can't imagine that was the plan. We heard a lot about three-safety looks (that never materialized) or how he would displace Hilton/Flowers on TE coverages (never really happened either). He was the fourth most valuable member of the draft class behind Volson, CTB and Carter, and ahead of two Day 3s who either didn't play much (Gunter) or play at all (Tycen). If this is a guy who we really wanted and were thrilled to get in Round 1, he's off to a rocky start.  

What always makes me laugh is the "The draft pick hasn't shown anything yet!" from some people who want to turn around and go invest yet another super early round draft pick at the exact same position a year or two later.
Like dude, you know only one of them gonna get the spot, right? Now you just essentially forced one of the high draft picks to ride the bench, possibly their whole rookie contract.
Rd 1-2 picks should not be used on long-term backup or rotational players. There should be a plan within a couple years for that draft pick to claim a starter role at that position. If not, you're investing too high of a draft pick.

FWIW, I've not seen hardly any draft expert mocking a safety.
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Duke Tobin on draft - pally - 04-20-2023, 02:14 PM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - ochocincos - 04-20-2023, 03:52 PM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - XenoMorph - 04-20-2023, 04:38 PM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - tms - 04-20-2023, 05:46 PM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - OSUfan - 04-20-2023, 08:37 PM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - Memphis_Bengal - 04-20-2023, 05:49 PM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - phil413 - 04-20-2023, 07:26 PM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - samhain - 04-20-2023, 08:41 PM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - tms - 04-20-2023, 07:19 PM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - ochocincos - 04-20-2023, 07:28 PM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - tms - 04-20-2023, 07:53 PM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - ochocincos - 04-20-2023, 07:55 PM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - Soonerpeace - 04-20-2023, 08:02 PM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - ochocincos - 04-21-2023, 09:39 AM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - Soonerpeace - 04-21-2023, 12:41 PM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - ochocincos - 04-21-2023, 12:55 PM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - Soonerpeace - 04-21-2023, 01:58 PM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - OSUfan - 04-20-2023, 08:41 PM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - coachmcneil71 - 04-21-2023, 12:12 PM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - XenoMorph - 04-21-2023, 04:40 PM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - SunsetBengal - 04-21-2023, 05:08 PM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - OSUfan - 04-21-2023, 05:35 PM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - SunsetBengal - 04-21-2023, 05:48 PM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - OSUfan - 04-21-2023, 06:50 PM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - casear2727 - 04-21-2023, 08:27 PM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - ochocincos - 04-24-2023, 10:24 AM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - WeezyBengal - 04-24-2023, 10:47 AM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - higgy100 - 04-24-2023, 11:24 AM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - Memphis_Bengal - 04-24-2023, 11:43 AM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - Bengal Dude - 04-20-2023, 08:28 PM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - casear2727 - 04-21-2023, 03:40 AM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - XenoMorph - 04-21-2023, 08:18 AM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - Bengalbug - 04-21-2023, 08:21 AM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - Garrus - 04-21-2023, 08:48 AM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - XenoMorph - 04-21-2023, 09:03 AM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - ochocincos - 04-21-2023, 09:45 AM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - Synric - 04-21-2023, 09:52 AM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - Garrus - 04-21-2023, 10:58 AM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - OSUfan - 04-21-2023, 11:37 AM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - WeezyBengal - 04-21-2023, 02:24 PM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - casear2727 - 04-21-2023, 02:29 PM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - jj22 - 04-21-2023, 02:37 PM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - ochocincos - 04-21-2023, 03:10 PM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - bengals1969 - 04-22-2023, 01:06 AM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - TecmoBengals - 04-23-2023, 06:24 PM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - bengals1969 - 04-23-2023, 08:06 PM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - Synric - 04-24-2023, 09:27 AM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - higgy100 - 04-24-2023, 11:23 AM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - Synric - 04-24-2023, 11:28 AM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - casear2727 - 04-24-2023, 12:21 PM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - casear2727 - 04-24-2023, 11:09 PM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - casear2727 - 04-25-2023, 02:28 PM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - ochocincos - 04-25-2023, 01:08 PM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - RancidJedi - 04-25-2023, 01:41 PM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - RancidJedi - 04-25-2023, 01:39 PM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - ah5 - 04-21-2023, 09:28 AM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - Graphicguy - 04-21-2023, 09:44 AM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - Memphis_Bengal - 04-21-2023, 10:34 AM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - OSUfan - 04-21-2023, 11:38 AM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - casear2727 - 04-21-2023, 12:21 PM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - Soonerpeace - 04-21-2023, 12:42 PM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - bengals1969 - 04-24-2023, 03:43 PM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - 007BengalsFan - 04-25-2023, 04:16 PM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - bengals1969 - 04-25-2023, 09:36 PM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - Soonerpeace - 04-25-2023, 10:40 PM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - TheCincinnatiKid - 04-26-2023, 06:57 AM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - Soonerpeace - 04-26-2023, 09:08 AM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - casear2727 - 04-26-2023, 10:47 AM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - Frank Booth - 04-26-2023, 11:12 AM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - TheCincinnatiKid - 04-26-2023, 12:16 PM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - bengals1969 - 04-26-2023, 12:47 PM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - Hammerstripes - 04-27-2023, 06:23 PM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - bengals1969 - 04-27-2023, 07:55 PM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - higgy100 - 04-25-2023, 01:02 PM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - bengals1969 - 04-27-2023, 10:19 AM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - bengals1969 - 04-27-2023, 05:58 PM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - casear2727 - 04-25-2023, 02:38 PM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - ochocincos - 04-25-2023, 02:47 PM
RE: Duke Tobin on draft - OSUfan - 04-28-2023, 07:23 AM

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