04-21-2023, 12:10 AM
(04-20-2023, 06:03 PM)samhain Wrote: Universal basic income is a valid concept if there's little to no work, but what does that do to the psychology of the human race? For better or for worse, we strive for money and define success by it. it may not fix everything or bring happiness, but the pursuit of money provides the journey that gives a lot of humans emotional fulfillment.
Once AI can take most jobs away, is there really even a society anymore? Do we become a de-facto marxist planet where everyone has the same stuff? Does everyone get access to everything, money be damned?
Once AI really gets to processing what humanity is and it's purpose, we may have no real purpose other than maintaining the AI, which it will likely learn to do as well. We'll just be another animal to an automated mind, and our particular variety has demands and appetites that are far more difficult to sustain than other species.
How long before they disallow us from waging wars of aggression or self-defense? How long before they start deciding that euthanasia can be a decision made by a machine and not an individual?
I feel like the likelihood of a handful of very wealthy people protecting themselves while the rest of us plebians die slow painful deaths is high.
Taking away a man's reason for work is taking away his purpose.
Discussing UBI really toes the line of politics, and I don't think this thread should or wants to get moved there so I'll be careful.
But the belief that if people are guaranteed universal basic income will somehow result in a mass exodus from the workforce or unproductivity is just not based in reality. Pilot programs and experiments have shown the opposite, among other benefits. In fact, UBI could help reverse the misguided notion that success should be based on money "earned" or it's the pursuit of money that should give us a sense of fulfillment. On the contrary, AI should ideally be used to replace labor that is not fulfilling to allow people to pursue truly fulfilling activities. Hell, during COVID I got sent home from my job for about 5 months with full pay, and it was probably the most fulfilling time of my life.
I'm convinced that if you were to hop into a time machine and go back to pre industrial revolution times and describe all of the wonderous advancements in technology and automation to the people of the 18th century and THEN told them people are expected to work a minimum of 8 hours a day, 5 days a week people would be floored and think you came from some sort of hell.