04-24-2023, 02:45 PM
(04-23-2023, 06:55 PM)Nepa Wrote: From your keyboard to God's mainframe. Would love to see your projection happen.
(04-23-2023, 07:14 PM)Danimal Wrote: I would be very happy if this would be the results. I’m liking that CB in rd 1.
Thanks Danimal.
(04-23-2023, 07:38 PM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: Forbes is my expectation for our first round pick as well. I just think the need fits the value too perfectly. Brett Kollman isn't a huge fan of his, which is a mild concern (even says if you want what Forbes could be in the NFL, DJ Turner is a similar profile and a lesser chance of bust due to size), but Joe Goodberry loves him. He's a very polarizing prospect, for sure, but I think the Bengals would make good use of him and his frame could afford to hold another 10 to 15 lbs.
If you want a guy like Forbes but who is probably going to be a better pro just draft DJ Turner idk
— Brett Kollmann (@BrettKollmann) April 19, 2023
Regardless, I would still love the Forbes pick.
Benton I also love (I made a thread about him), but I'd be surprised if he were there at 60. I'd absolutely love if he was, as it would be a steal. I guess in a DT class this deep someone has to fall. I think Mazi Smith is more likely to drop than Benton though simply because nose tackles always seem to fall in the draft. DTs with pass rush upside typically go higher in the draft and that's what Benton is. With that said, if we took Smith at 60 I'd love that too because he'd be essentially a direct DJ replacement.
Johnson is one of my favorite mid round RBs in this draft. He doesn't have a lot of wear and tear, he has good reps as a pass blocker and, if I recall correctly, he lead college football in elusive rate per PFF (or at least was close). I don't have a subscription to PFF, so I can't double check that. It was just something I heard on one of their podcasts. He isn't a burner and is strictly a complimentary back (he's the closest I could find to Samaje Perine in this draft). I think the 3rd round may be a round or two early for him simply because this RB class is so deep though. I think we could nab him in the 4th, but I can't complain about getting one of my favorite backs even if it is a round earlier than I'd prefer.
Whyle is good as well, but again, a rounder earlier than I'd prefer. He and Strange may end up being swapped, tbh, which wouldn't bother me. I like them both as prospects and would be happy if we got both of them in the same draft.
Double dipping at RB is an interesting strategy, as we already have Mixon and Williams on the roster. This would essentially kick Evans off the roster, which may or may not happen anyway haha. They have not been a fan of using him in the last few years for whatever reason, even though he always seems to make a play when he's on the field. I don't know a lot about McIntosh since he's a very late round prospect, but from what I've seen it sounds like he offers some value as a receiver out of the backfield. Can't complain about that.
Depth at edge rusher is always appreciated too.
Overall, I'd be fairly happy with this draft. A few guys are a little too early for my tastes (with Johnson, Whyle and Mcintosh going 3, 4 and 5, when they could potentially go 4, 5 and 6 would essentially be converting our 3rd rounder into a 6th rounder) but you get good value in the 6th with Strange, so that mostly evens out, I think. I think this draft fills several holes and improves a roster that was already on the brink of its second straight Super Bowl appearance!
Rock on CJD. I understand your points, I just went on how the Draft fell. They have guys ranked higher than I do and kind of had
to take what I could get. Like I see Strange going a lot earlier than they have him going in all these simulators. If I didn't take Roschon
where I did he would of been gone in the 4th pretty sure. And yeah, Benton being there at 60 also seems far fetched.
I like Whyle a lot, he is kind of like LaPorta in this way where he had shit at QB.
(04-23-2023, 09:39 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Probably McIntosh isn't being talked about much because he didn't show very well in the speed and agility drills at the Combine.
Pretty much only thing McIntosh did well was his 10-yard split. Everything else really underwhelmed, especially only at 204 lbs.
https://ras.football/ras-information/?PlayerID=23069&ovl=Georgia
Makes sense, watching McIntosh as a runner he looks way more quick than his combine numbers allude.
In the end I like to watch film over just judging from the Combine. His film looks good.
(04-24-2023, 11:20 AM)Soonerpeace Wrote: I’d be shocked if they took 2 running backs. Economics drives all roster decisions. They’ve got Evans and Williams ( new deal) and Mixon who will be on the roster for ‘23. They may take one but someone told me that there was zero chance they’d go into ‘23 with a new RB room. They could draft one and Evans go to the practice squad. But right now they are pointing towards Trayveon to replace Perine
You keep saying this, but I only see Mixon on the roster if his contract is restructured and he shows more effort in pass pro.
We have been looking at RB's and TE's more than any positions in this Draft for a reason.
(04-24-2023, 11:24 AM)psychdoctor Wrote: Nate, if you use one of the draft sims, you can add it to the new draft challenge thread...
Thanks Psych, don't know if I know how to do that or where the draft challenge thread is...
I put this here because I couldn't find the Mock draft forum anymore...
(04-24-2023, 12:24 PM)TecmoBengals Wrote: I think you're spot on with the "most likely" take. I also think rounds 3 or 4, or maybe even round 2 (to fan dismay) could be Blake Freeland, OL from BYU.
We have looked at Freeland. He sure is a freak of an athlete for his size. I just don't know if he fits the Gap scheme.
(04-24-2023, 01:35 PM)SHRacerX Wrote: Don't know much about Benton but I can see why you would try to have an option behind Reader and Tupou who could both leave. BTW, Tufele is still a Bengal through 2024. Really like him last year in limited action. I have no idea who else might have been available, but my dream is the Bengals come away with Jones in Rd 2 as a developmental guy at RT. He could make Jonah expendible.
Forbes and Johnson are awesome picks. Would be pumped if we came away with those two the first couple days of the draft.
I'm not sold on Whyle. Didn't put up great athletic scores, nor did he have great production. So-so athlete.
Love the rest. Good work, Nate.
Benton could be a stud in the NFL and brings a pass rush with him. Honestly, was surprised he was there at 60. I also really like
Jay Tufele and he might be the reason we aren't scared of losing DJ, I don't know, sure scares me, We don't make it to the SB or
the AFCC 2 times in a row without DJ Reader.
Wouldn't mind Dawand Jones at 60 if he is in shape somewhat, but him avoiding drills makes me hesitant with him. I think the
coaches like Carman to take over RT and run with it and we trade Jonah during the Draft. While Whyle didn't put up RAS scores
like Kuntz, he is still athletic and fast. He was just on a bad Offense similar to LaPorta who is another TE I like in this Draft.