10-13-2023, 11:01 PM
(10-13-2023, 10:26 AM)ochocincos Wrote: I'm seeing some people bashing Hill in some threads for not being good enough in the pass rush, so they want someone else who is better.
Here's the leaderboard for IDL sacks more than Hill (2.5):
Chris Jones - 5.5
Ed Oliver - 4.0
Jalen Carter - 3.5
Vita Vea - 3.5
Osa Odighuzuwa - 3.0
Kenny Clark - 3.0
Javon Hargrave - 3.0
Morgan Fox - 3.0
Drake Jackson - 3.0
Hill is tied for 10th (with Aaron Donald and Jeffery Simmons) among IDL for sacks.
I actually don't think getting an upgrade at 3T to be an immediate starter is as big of a need as some people think.
With that said, Hill will be in a contract year next year and won't likely be extended, so they probably do need someone who can be a rotational piece before taking over majority of snaps in 2025.
I'm willing to give Carter through the rest of this year to see how he comes along before saying he's not good enough.
He wasn't a full-time IDL in college, so we knew he was going to take a bit more time to settle in and get going.
Is Michael Hall someone who can come in and get 4+ sacks as a rotational guy?
I ask because right now, we already got some interior guys who can get 2-4 in a rotational capacity.
Is Hall worth taking over someone like Tyler Davis from Clemson?
Davis has more pass rushing production than Hall, but I haven't watched either of them much to assess why that is.
Hill has a 7% pass rush win rate. He’s been bad this year. For reference it was 13% last year. I had dremont jones coming out as a 5-8 sack a year guy. Hall is better as a pass rusher and he’s damn good against the run. I believe if he was a 3-tech starter he’d give you 6-9 sacks his rookie year with a 12-15% pressure rate. See below his strengths. I think 3-tech is need number one
Hall has a wide base and a low center of gravity to hold his ground against single blockers, as well as the upper-body strength to shed them.
Strength gives ends a chance to twist inside and linebackers free lane to the passer on blitzes.
He’s ready for the physicality of the NFL; Hall has a stout build, strong core and powerful limbs to step in right away as a three-down player.
His motor is excellent, and he’s quick to locate the ball and make plays against the run.
Provides some secondary interior pass rush, getting most penetration when playing three technique.
Plays with leverage at the point of attack whether inside or outside. Keeps eyes in the backfield when inside; moves linemen to either side with strong hands.
