Our drafting has sucked lately

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(01-30-2024, 11:30 PM)KillerGoose Wrote: It's surprisingly irritating when people insist that Ross was a one trick pony due to his speed. He was a great prospect on paper for all of the reasons you mentioned. Ultimately he didn't work out, but it is such a lazy and misinformed opinion to say that he had nothing but speed. You don't get drafted in the top 10 purely on speed unless you're Darrius Heyward-Bey.

Equally irritating is if people pretend there wasn't a whole boatload of red flags about John Ross and those red flags weren't overlooked because speed.


John Ross was a <5'11" and <190lb WR who had had one knee with an ACL tear, the other knee with 3 meniscus tears. He had a torn labrum his draft offseason that got surgery that December, and then he injured his calf running his 40 yard dash. 

He had exactly 1 year of production and in that year he got absolutely shut down by Alabama (5 catches for 28 yards (5.6 AVG).

Then here comes the NFL and he gets an injured knee and ends up on the IR with a shoulder injury. Then he pulls his groin, pulls his groin again. Then he goes on IR with yet another shoulder injury.

(01-31-2024, 04:20 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: The fallacy is people think that if a guy is a bust that there is some way to spot it in college. In a lot of cases there wasn't.

Now a guy like Ogbuehi was coming off of a major knee injury and he gave up a lot of sacks in college. So in some rare cases, there are a lot of red flags for a prospect. ie drafting on Projection over Production. He looks like an athletic lineman. In 2014, he was one of the leaders in sacks allowed in the SEC.

Ross had missed the entire previous year and then after his one productive season he needed shoulder surgery. He hurt himself running his 40. 

He was a small fragile dude with small hands and had only played WR for an entire year once. He missed 2015 entirely, in 2014 he was a part-time WR and part-time CB, and in 2013 he was a return specialist.