12-03-2024, 04:29 AM
I'll add to what Baltimore Ravens players said when Bengals let Bates and others leave. They said there goes the Bengals Defense.
In 2021, the Bengals had good DT's, but not now. The LBs played better. The DBs are a joke compared to 2021.
Collinsworth said covering Bengals on Sunday Night Game, Hendrickson is good, but he can't do it alone. Others on Defense need to do their jobs.
I think Bengals need to hit Defense in Free Agency and the Draft hard. Say adios to a lot of the D players they have. Bring in D Players who get the job done in the NFL. George Allen use to trade all his draft picks for NFL veterans, but Paul Brown never did, nor will his family.
Oh, someone mentioned Marvin Lewis, so I have to point out the Bengals were awful on Defense his last few years here, and just an awful team. Of course some of that is who The Brown Family and Tobin got rid of in players and their awful draft picks that Lewis said he had little control of. I hope Mike Brown and Family haven't gone back to not listening to coaches on players, because The Brown Family are good lawyers, but they don't know much about football.
Whoever the D Coach is, the Bengals need DT's, more Edge rushers, Help at LB, and much more talent at CB and Safety. In short, they need a complete rebuild of new players on Defense. All the money can't go into the Offense. They will have to spend some money on Defense if they want to get out of last place and return to the Play-Offs under Burrow in future years.
Tony Dungy, the Defensive Guru at Tampa and Indy, always preached adding Speed to the Defense. Bengals should keep that in mind as they rebuild this awful Defense.
NO, the Bengals do not have good players and it is all the coach. That would be too easy. The fact is The Bengals have lousy players on Defense across the board, except for Hendrickson. The Bengals do NOT have quality players on Defense, in fact, they stink.
I'll also add The Bengals defense is at it's worst against quarterbacks who can also run. The Bengals in those Nickle and Dime packages 80 % of the game get killed by running QB's such as Jackson. Hurst, Wilson. I'm forced to think being in the Nickle or Dime 80 % of the game is the worst way to defend quarterbacks who can run. I have heard announcers say you have to be aggressive and get in their backfield, because a QB like Jackson will just killl that Nickle Package Defense, The Bengals do OK against slow pocket quarteerbacks, but running quarterbacks eat Bengals alive all game long.
Bengals sit back in Prevent Defenses most of the game. Basketball coach Bobby Knights take on football prevent defense was, the only thing it prevents is victory. That the best way to lose is to go into the Prevent Defenses. Coach Taylor has always believed his team should have 5 or 6 DB's on the field 80 % of the game, but Lemar Jackson keeps proving that is the wrong defense to stop him. Same goes for all other QB's who can run as well as pass. They eat that Prevent up all game. It's just not aggressive enough. The only way Coach Taylor using 5 DB's might work, is if one of those DB's is the size of a LB and hits like a LB. Bates could kind of do that, and Taylors Nickle D has struggled without a LB / DB like Bates.
OK, now back to other peoples opinions on this Defense. I will repeat, it is too easy to say Bengals have the players and all they need is a new D Coach. Actually, most of these D players are awful. Most of these D Players need fired, but getting Quality Replacements is The Hard Part. Still, Tony Dungy went from team to team rebuilding Defenses, and look what Harbaugh has done quickly with The Chargers Defense, so it can be done. You do need a Warren Sapp type at DT, and Bengals don't have a Monster at DT that other teams fear.
Of course if the Bengals Defense gets rebuilt good again, will Mike Brown pay them ? The never ending problem as long as Mike Brown is alive and running this team now in his 4th decade as owner.
In 2021, the Bengals had good DT's, but not now. The LBs played better. The DBs are a joke compared to 2021.
Collinsworth said covering Bengals on Sunday Night Game, Hendrickson is good, but he can't do it alone. Others on Defense need to do their jobs.
I think Bengals need to hit Defense in Free Agency and the Draft hard. Say adios to a lot of the D players they have. Bring in D Players who get the job done in the NFL. George Allen use to trade all his draft picks for NFL veterans, but Paul Brown never did, nor will his family.
Oh, someone mentioned Marvin Lewis, so I have to point out the Bengals were awful on Defense his last few years here, and just an awful team. Of course some of that is who The Brown Family and Tobin got rid of in players and their awful draft picks that Lewis said he had little control of. I hope Mike Brown and Family haven't gone back to not listening to coaches on players, because The Brown Family are good lawyers, but they don't know much about football.
Whoever the D Coach is, the Bengals need DT's, more Edge rushers, Help at LB, and much more talent at CB and Safety. In short, they need a complete rebuild of new players on Defense. All the money can't go into the Offense. They will have to spend some money on Defense if they want to get out of last place and return to the Play-Offs under Burrow in future years.
Tony Dungy, the Defensive Guru at Tampa and Indy, always preached adding Speed to the Defense. Bengals should keep that in mind as they rebuild this awful Defense.
NO, the Bengals do not have good players and it is all the coach. That would be too easy. The fact is The Bengals have lousy players on Defense across the board, except for Hendrickson. The Bengals do NOT have quality players on Defense, in fact, they stink.
I'll also add The Bengals defense is at it's worst against quarterbacks who can also run. The Bengals in those Nickle and Dime packages 80 % of the game get killed by running QB's such as Jackson. Hurst, Wilson. I'm forced to think being in the Nickle or Dime 80 % of the game is the worst way to defend quarterbacks who can run. I have heard announcers say you have to be aggressive and get in their backfield, because a QB like Jackson will just killl that Nickle Package Defense, The Bengals do OK against slow pocket quarteerbacks, but running quarterbacks eat Bengals alive all game long.
Bengals sit back in Prevent Defenses most of the game. Basketball coach Bobby Knights take on football prevent defense was, the only thing it prevents is victory. That the best way to lose is to go into the Prevent Defenses. Coach Taylor has always believed his team should have 5 or 6 DB's on the field 80 % of the game, but Lemar Jackson keeps proving that is the wrong defense to stop him. Same goes for all other QB's who can run as well as pass. They eat that Prevent up all game. It's just not aggressive enough. The only way Coach Taylor using 5 DB's might work, is if one of those DB's is the size of a LB and hits like a LB. Bates could kind of do that, and Taylors Nickle D has struggled without a LB / DB like Bates.
OK, now back to other peoples opinions on this Defense. I will repeat, it is too easy to say Bengals have the players and all they need is a new D Coach. Actually, most of these D players are awful. Most of these D Players need fired, but getting Quality Replacements is The Hard Part. Still, Tony Dungy went from team to team rebuilding Defenses, and look what Harbaugh has done quickly with The Chargers Defense, so it can be done. You do need a Warren Sapp type at DT, and Bengals don't have a Monster at DT that other teams fear.
Of course if the Bengals Defense gets rebuilt good again, will Mike Brown pay them ? The never ending problem as long as Mike Brown is alive and running this team now in his 4th decade as owner.
1968 Bengal Fan
