The Force Awakens spoiler thread

[RoyleRedlegs]

(01-09-2016, 06:27 AM)Sovereign Nation Wrote: I obviously understand the new movie more than you.  You do see the propaganda in the movie?  How they even hit you over the head with them?

You keep going on about people thinking Ren = Vader.  I don't think I have EVER seen a person make that correlation except for people clearly reaching for any excuse to justify one of the most boring characters in the movies.

Ren is not Vader, he even doubts that he would be anywhere near as good as Vader was.  

If Ren is not Vader and is more closely to Luke in ESB, then who is Rey?

I mean Luke will try to train Rey, only for her to go... "No thanks, I got this" and then stomp Snoke while everyone adores her perfection.

I wouldn't even be surprised if the big twist is for Rey to turn to the dark side at the end of this trilogy, to set up another trilogy in which her midochlorian concepted child has to try and turn her to the light side again.

You have literally compared Rey vs Ren to Vader fighting Luke several times. 
It's a lame comparison because Ren isn't trained.