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Troy Walters
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(Yesterday, 10:53 AM)ochocincos Wrote: All I'm sayin is he's still outperformed a high majority of 6th round guys in their 2nd years.
I'm not saying he's a long-term keeper yet. He has 2 years left on his rookie contract to show continued growth.
I'll be interested to see what his role ends up being in 2025.

Quote:He caught <60% of his targets from a QB who completed >70% of his attempts. 

He broke 0 tackles and had a drop rate >8%.
His 1.9 YAC per reception was 177th/177.
If you care about PFF he was the 124th out of 132 WRs.

Last year his catch rate was actually 1% better.
He broke the same 0 tackles last year. His drop rate was actually 0.2% lower last year.
His YAC was actually 0.4 better last year.
Don't know what his PFF grade was last year, but it's not like 124th out of 132 is leaving much room for him to have improved this year.

The only growth was in snaps and targets, but he didn't actually grow from a efficiency or positivity standpoint. All those numbers got worse from an already bad starting point.

This is people convincing themselves that Tanner Hudson is a viable TE1 last offseason, or that Trenton Irwin would replace Tyler Boyd at WR3. That's just throwing the ball a good amount of times to scrubs in an extremely pass heavy offense (most of the time from Joe Burrow). It's not that they're actually good. 


Welcome to having a top QB.
In 2021, the Chiefs had Byron Pringle a 3rd year UDFA get 568 yards and 5 TD because he was suddenly forced into a much increased snap load and target load. Was he good? No, the Chiefs moved on from him and he's been on two teams since and never reached 200 yards.... or in 2023 they'll just turn a Justin Watson into a 460 yard WR even though he only caught 50.9% of his targets, 0 broken tackles, and 1.7 YAC/R.... or the 2013 Patriots with Kembrell Thompson, a rookie UDFA with 466 yards, but it was on a 46.4% catch rate.

If you gave the exact same number of offensive snaps and targets to a decent WR, they'd put up much better numbers.
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Troy Walters - jj22 - 01-08-2025, 07:19 PM
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