JoeyB willing to restructure

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(02-06-2025, 07:32 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Those are both the fake numbers that are released to make it look better, not the guaranteed at signing which are the REAL guarantees.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/contracts/_/position/wr/sort/initial_guaranteed/dir/desc

If both of Jefferson's legs fall off tomorrow, he will not get $110m. The same with Lamb's $100m.

Jefferson got $88.743m guaranteed at signing.
Lamb got $67m.

Those are the real numbers.

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Example:
https://www.nfl.com/news/russell-wilson-broncos-contract-extension-five-year-245-million
"includes $165m guaranteed"

But Wilson didn't see $165m out of that contract, because that was the fake inflated "guarantees". What he got was $124 ($123m from the Broncos and $1m from the Steelers), because that was the actual guaranteed money.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/9885/russell-wilson

Guaranteed at signing is largely the only number that truly matters. The rest is for show. That's why Davante Adams' deal was so tradeable despite being on a 5yr/$140m deal... only $22.75m of it was guaranteed at signing.

Amon-Ra St Brown got a 4yr/$120m extension last offseason and 2025 will be the first year of it, but after 2025's $13.9m cap hit the Lions could already get out of it with just $16.7m in dead cap because it only had a $34.6m guarantee at signing despite the gaudy looking "$77m guaranteed" that is ostensibly attached to it. 

TY, I trusted the reporting. I have some homework. it can get confusing especially extensions. It is my understanding am extension for Chase takes int consideration the contract of 21+ million already baked in. All would be guaranteed. Then the actual extension alters the cap and guaranteed portion. But again, maybe I am wrong.

I need to check out how they calculated Burrows extension for cap and guarantees. Here is JB contract.
https://www.spotrac.com/news/_/id/2013/breaking-down-joe-burrows-275m-extension

Here is explanation on his guaranteed calculation within the link above.

The Guarantee Structure

It’s another wow here. Lamar Jackson’s $135M was the previous high guarantee at signing figure (Deshaun Watson excluded). But Burrow’s $146.51M soars to the top with this new deal, including 3 years of fully guaranteed compensation through 2025.

That said, it wouldn’t be fair to ignore that Burrow already had $35M fully guaranteed allocated on his rookie contract, so accounting for that lowers this new guarantee at signing figure to $111.4M - still $11.4M more than Justin Herbert secured ($100M), and plenty more than Jackson’s adjusted number when accounting for the offered franchise tag ($102.6M).

On the 5th league day of 2025, another $35.25M becomes fully guaranteed (his 2026 compensation). All of that is guaranteed for injury at the time of signing.

On the 5th league day of 2026, another $18.3M becomes fully guaranteed (a portion of his 2027 compensation). The remaining $18.95M fully guarantees in March of 2027.

That brings us to a practical guarantee total of $219.01M, through the 2027 season, 2nd only to Deshaun Watson’s $230M.