Does Marvin teach it?

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(01-11-2016, 02:46 AM)fredtoast Wrote: So much logical fail I don't know where to start.

Saying that we are better than some other teams in no way means we have lowered expectations.  You have to have a brick for a brain to claim that there is no difference between a playoff team and a 4-12 team.  But saying that a playoff team is better than a 4-12 team does not mean we have lower expectations.  Why can't you grasp the simple concept that it is possible to both say we are better than a 4-12 team AND not as good as a Super Bowl team.  Is your brain so limited that it can not accept both of those concepts at the same time?

And not one single person here or in the Bengals organization has ever said that winning a playoff game for us is the same as winning a Super Bowl for other teams.  What do you even mean by that?  It is nothing but gibberish.

this is nothing but gibberish.

You don't need to resort to insults.  You and I are obviously discussing different things.  You showed a list of franchises, and you are talking about comparing our TEAM to other TEAMS, and I'm thinking more about the long-term organization.  I happen to see Marvin, the playoff losses, the Palmer debacle, the Chad and TO show, having a HC who is a GM we force to coach, etc. all as symptoms of the Mike Brown era.

When I look at a game like last night's game I happen to see recurring themes of the past 25 years.  You see, when the owner and GM are the same for a quarter of a century, and the HC is the same for 13 years, the past DOES matter...because the past is the present and future.  We have a talented roster, but I see 25-year old factors as the one two punch that sets up the haymaker that are the 13-year old factors.

That's what I see.  I'm a big ol' dope though.  Personally, I feel like you are right in seeing the past 5 years as a reboot of sorts.  


EDIT:  I wanetd to address this:

And not one single person here or in the Bengals organization has ever said that winning a playoff game for us is the same as winning a Super Bowl for other teams.  What do you even mean by that?  It is nothing but gibberish.


This is actually an assertion of my own.  It seems like we simply can't break through the first round of the playoffs, and we see teams go into the playoffs once every few years at 9-7 who win the Super Bowl while we win 10-12 games on a yearly basis and then fail as soon as we get in there.  The Super Bowl in the past 5 years has been played, and won by teams that don't need 7+ cracks at the playoffs to make progress.  Sure it beats going 4-12, but it just shows how the Bengals are confusingly different.

Basically, I'm saying that with Mike Brown as our owner and GM, and guy who makes our GM also be our HC, we have created an organization that needs as much luck and talent to win a single playoff game as other teams may need to win the whole damn thing.