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(03-19-2025, 11:38 PM)007BengalsFan Wrote: You act as though Lou was gifted this super talented defense. He was not. Many of the guys on defense became better football players under Lou's coaching. He made his secondary work with Awuzie and Apple as his #1 and #2 corners. What did either one of them do before they came to Lou as coach and what did they do after they left Lou? He took a subpar BJ Hill that the Giants thought so little of they traded him for Billy Price yet Lou made him into a good DT. Trey Hendrickson flourished under Lou. Pratt and Wilson were drafted under Lou and have played well. Which guys on defense is it you think should be much better than what they are because of coaching?
Im not trying to twist anything. I pointed out the facts. You can choose to ignore those facts but it doesnt change what it is. Under Zac Taylor the Bengals have used 7 1st and 2nd round draft picks on offense while using just 5 on defense. The picks on offense have also been much higher than the ones used on defense. That matters a lot which is why you want to have higher draft picks and why they are valued more than lower draft picks even in the 1st round.
Since you mentioned Dax Hill lets use the 2022 draft as an example. Dax was picked #31, CTB was #60. If they Bengals had a top 5 pick they take someone like Sauce Garner or Derek Stingley Jr instead or maybe even Kyle Hamilton. The reason they take Dax or CTB latter is because they were a couple of guy who were left after the more sought after guys were taken. The Bengals didnt have the option to take Garner or Stingley or Hamilton because those top guys were gone. If the Bengals dont have top 5 picks they dont get Burrow or Chase. The offense has been gifted high offensive draft picks. The defense hasnt.
You’re silly. Teams like the Steelers and ravens hardly ever have a pick in the teens, yet they still field incredible defenses. Built around mostly the draft. Considering the Steelers haven’t had a losing season under tomlin, we are going on about 20 years of them not having a top 10 pick, unless there was a trade up. But I don’t follow them closely.
It’s hard to compare a top 5 pick going to offense va defense when offensive playmakers are the premium.
You also keep leaving out very valuable 3rd round picks.
8 of the last 10 (day 1 and day 2) picks has been used on defense.
Burrow and Chase need, and should, be excluded from this discussion because they were slam dunk generational picks. At no point was a defensive player considered at either spot. burrow was stand alone and then it was Chase/sewell/ occasional Pitts (thank goodness here).
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