01-11-2016, 06:51 PM
(01-11-2016, 05:53 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Phantom and biased? Get over yourself. They were deserved penalties because they were due to illegal actions. There are a number of personal fouls taking place in the area around Porter (Gilberry with his helmet off for example) but nothing get's called until an official get's hit. They were being lenient with everyone in that situation until Jones touched a zebra. I don't call that biased, I call that giving people leeway in an emotional game.How did Jones touch the zebra if Porter wasn't on the field illegally? Was he shoving air? Was he hallucinating? Was I hallucinating? Were the hundreds of millions of other people that saw it hallucinating?
(01-11-2016, 05:54 PM)GMDino Wrote: No, no. Brad (among others) believes the refs don't call anything on the Steelers. They called a lot. All but one were completely legit.They don't call anything when it's crucial parts of the game and game-changing plays. See Porter for an example.
But when your team melts down and gives away a game like that I guess any excuse is better than the truth?
(01-11-2016, 05:55 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: If you hit a defenseless receiver in the head, using any part of your body, you will get a PF thrown at you. Period. That is what happened.But Porter wasn't allowed on the field, which no penalty was called, and you and others on here claim that the refs aren't biased towards the Steelers, meaning that they would have called a penalty as blatant as that against there Steelers, so who was Jones trying to get to if Porter wasn't on the field?
Jones didn't shove Porter, Gilberry did. Jones laid his hands on an official, or at least bumped him trying to get to Porter. The extent of the contact I do not know.
(01-11-2016, 05:56 PM)Gwillednt Wrote: As for the first part, we went down this road on the old boards when this all started with Harrison back in what? 08? 09? 10? The consnesus was "too bad, so sad, intent doesn't matter and it's up to the defender to find a way to miss". Burfict doesn't get a pass just because he's on our team now, anymore than Harrison used to. Unless, of course, you take the opposite approach, in which case it still works both ways.Brown led with his head when he dove, so why wasn't he penalized?
No argument from me on the second point, though. That should have been a penalty on Pitt... or offsetting on Pitt and Jones depending on what exactly happened.
(01-11-2016, 06:01 PM)JS-Steelerfan Wrote: Watch the video of Burfict closely. His helmet DID hit Brown before his shoulder did. Watch the angle at that is shown at the 0:17 second mark.YOU'RE FULL OF SHIT! HIS HEAD DOESN'T JERK BACK UNTIL BURFICT'S SHOULDER GETS THERE!
http://youtu.be/-tfLncD3pGM
Porter should have been flagged. But that doesn't excuse anyone from shoving him from behind, especially if he had to travel several yards to do it. But that was Gilberry. Jones wasn't flagged for shoving Porter. He was flagged for shoving a ref. Gilberry's shove of Porter went uncalled, as did Burfict's shove of a Steeler trainer.
But no matter who did what, they are responsible for their own actions. Porter getting away with being out there does not excuse them from any wrongdoings they themselves commit.
By the way: the rule prohibiting coaches on the field is written in such a way that the refs have the authority to allow non-players and non-trainers on the field during a time out. They are not bound to calling penalties in that situation - they can use their own discretion.
Like I said, Steelers and Ravens fans throw out bullshit and think we're all too stupid to know the difference!
Watch and see that Brown's head hasn't moved when Burfict's helmet is passed Brown! Stop throwing out bullshit and think we're all too stupid to know better!
I have a picture of it but it's too big to attach and I'm trying to resize it.