05-02-2025, 09:17 PM
(05-01-2025, 08:40 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: I know you were arguing with J24 TLL, but Mahomes was like a mid-tier QB last year. It is a what have you done lately league.
Joe, Lamar along with maybe Goff and Allen were the best QB's last season.
Mahomes benefits from so much along with great coaching that Joe simply does not have.
Although I ranked JB #2, I agree with the highlighted.
Mahomes does benefit from great coaching and a good defense. But one of the most important factor in his/their success is the fact that AFC West collectively has been weak for several years, which gives some merit to the argument that he has had a competitive advantage. They have been feasting on Raiders, Broncos and Chargers for years. Chargers and Raiders put up some resistance a year or two, but thats it.
I don't believe he would have had the same success playing in AFC North for Kevin Stefanski. Would he have had the same success playing the Ravens and Steelers 4 times a year and facing burrow twice a year? I firmly believe that the answer to that question in NO.
Payton and Harbaugh are changing that division and I would not be surprised to see impact on Mahome's success. Mahome's statistics downturn since '23 has coincided with arrival of Payton in '23 and Harbaugh in '24.
When I first posted on this thread, I did ask that parameters/criteria be placed on how we rank the QBs. Strength of division should be one of the criteria. If 1/3 of your games every year have been against subpar Teams, you have an advantage. Burrow has had to face Superbowl winning coaches in their division 4 times EVERY year.
Now Mahomes will face SB winning HCs 6 times each year. Once Payton, Harbaugh and Carrol get their Rosters set, lets then see how Mahomes does.
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