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(06-02-2025, 07:28 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: I’d take Leon Hall over a couple of those CB’s.

Leon over all, save for the first two.

(06-03-2025, 08:06 AM)Sled21 Wrote: How are you going to do Pete Johnson like that, or Danny Casanova, or Bob Trumpy.. or Jim Breech? Lots of good names on your list, but it suffers from recency bias.
Even McPherson.... pfffftttt. not yet.

Breech is the second or third worst long-time starting K in our history (even below Fat Randy), only Rackers (and he technically wasn't long-term. Pelfrey would be the other one) is worse.

You need to compare them to their peers in terms of percentage, makes, clutch factor, etc. Breech was never top 10 in anything, outside of maybe 1 year (I can't remember exactly, but I wrote a post like this a year or two ago), he was awful compared to his peers. He just kicked for us for a long time, that's all.

It's like Mason Crosby: the guy was a shitty K for SO LONG, people think he was great because GB decided to keep him around. Look at this numbers when compared to his peers, they are not great at all.

By the numbers, Shayne is our best K ever, but Evan will surpass him in a couple of years unless something catastrophic happens.