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(7 hours ago)ochocincos Wrote: I understand all that, but we are talking about 2025 productivity, are we not?
So what are people basing Jenkins's 2025 productivity on other than pure hope he gets more stats than he did last year?
Murphy went from 20 combined tackles, 3.0 sacks, and 15 total pressures his rookie year (304 defensive snaps) to 20 combined tackles, 0 sacks, and 20 total pressures his sophomore year (353 defensive snaps).
Bringing up Murphy because players not making the jump or even performing worse their 2nd season definitely happens.
And I was comparing with Williams because Williams led the league in pressures for IDL, so I wanted to show how Jenkins compared to the top guy.
I get that Jenkins was a rookie, was playing hurt some, yada yada yada.
At the end of the day, I'm more worried about 2025 performance and less worried about how he'll be in 3-4 years as a long-term guy.
Murphy was on IR when the season started due to his MCL injury in preseason. Affected his get off even after returning. Ossai and Hubbard got most of the edge snaps and Murphy was also moved inside on obvious passing downs.
Also, the sophomore slump usually occurs with skill positions (QB, WR, CB, etc) - not D-line. D-line and O-line generally improve, as they adjust to physicality of the game.
I agree that Hill and Slaton are the starters and will get most of the snaps. Both Jackson and Jenkins will take the next step, and I feel Jenkins will take the bigger leap for the reasons I stated in my first response to you.
It may be that Jackson outshines Jenkins due to his pass rush repertoire, and I hope Bengals give him that opportunity, instead of just two-gap, zero tech responsibility.
But I am high on Jenkins.
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