Yesterday, 09:17 PM
(Yesterday, 04:39 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Basically the position Trey plays most of the time. Wide 9. I don't know if it's called Over or Outside. I've heard it both ways.
(Yesterday, 04:46 PM)Synric Wrote: It's a stand up 5 tech right? LE/RE would be 5 tech and 4 tech. ROLB/LOLB would be 6, 7 , and 9 tech.
(Yesterday, 04:53 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: That's kinda where i'm confused about what terminology they use for what. Trey lines up almost 50/50 between REO and ROLB. By pure positional alignment you are correct. OLB would have to be 7/9 but i've seen 6/7 (with Trey) with either hand down or stand up...so i'd say to be correct, as you said, REO LEO would be 6/7 (hand up or down?) and ROLB and LOLB would be 7/9 standing up.
I don't study this nearly enough so i should probably just wait for people that know more to chime in.
EDIT: 5/6 7/9
(Yesterday, 05:23 PM)Synric Wrote: I'm a dumbass its probably.
RE/LE - 5 Tech (Outside shoulder of OT) and 4 Tech (directly over OT)
REO/LEO - Hand Down 6 Tech (Inside shoulder of TE), 7 Tech (directly over TE), 9 Tech (Outside shoulder of TE)
ROLB/LOLB - Stand up 6, 7, 9 Tech with some "5" Tech (space because of TE alignment)
(Yesterday, 05:47 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: So that's where my confusion sets in. Even numbers line up directly over so i'd expect 6 to be directly over the TE (0 over C, 2 over G, 4 over T). Odd numbers shade outside, interior even numbers shading inside (2i G, 4i T). Where it gets a little funky is the TE. The numbers aren't linear out there. From my understanding, 6 head up on the TE but then 7 is shading inside the TE and 9 is shading outside the TE...(two odd numbers)
I wonder how much freedom Trey has to decide hand down or stand up because like i said, i've seen him do it multiple ways.
I agree w/4, 5 being LE/RE.
With what i said above about the TE, i wonder if 6/7 is LEO/REO w/ some 5 depending on spacing (as you said above about OLB), with hand down.
Which would leave 6/7/9 standing up as LOLB/ROLB.
I just wonder if the presence or not of a TE has anything to do with determining it?
(Yesterday, 06:37 PM)Synric Wrote: You can still have your hand down in a 9 tech. Jim Schwartz does it quite a bit. It gets really fun when you going goalline and short yardage where you throw the 8 tech over the wing outside the 9t.
My apologies in advance if this topic has ended, or I stating the obvious. But following is the basic Bryant/Phillips numbering system.
![[Image: tips-bumphillips.gif]](https://www.coachwyatt.com/tips-bumphillips.gif)
There are specific differences between 3-4 and 4-3 responsibility (run defense in 2 point stance/rush in three point), where the DE lines up relative to the outside foot of the offensive "end", how does the DE line up (perpendicular to or in an angle to the line), etc.
As an off topic, the weakness in the wide alignment in traditional 4-3 is defending the run and exposing the C-Gap - unless the DT is in 3 tech or a LB is protecting it..
![[Image: 4CV0TeR.png]](https://i.imgur.com/4CV0TeR.png)