06-15-2015, 06:47 AM
(06-15-2015, 01:47 AM)JustWinBaby Wrote: That's interesting. I did wonder about her showing up conveniently, and then vaguely remembered something about her seeing Jon Snow in her visions.
Of course, we don't really know that Stannis is dead, either. Not that RR gives a shit about convention, but in tv if you didn't see it then it didn't happen. And I almost forgot about Reak and Sansa jumping.
Speaking of Stannis, that was a pretty awful miscalculation. Even if he half his army didn't leave, they still look to have been outnumbered at least 5 to 1.
According to the HBO viewers guide, Jon, Stannis, and the Lannister girl are dead.
Not sure if I completely buy into Stannis definitely being dead. Brienne tends to hesitate and she may have been caught off guard by how honorable Stannis was in his death sentence. Though the show really effed that character over. He's the greatest general/tactician in the world, and he roles up to the most fortified castle in Westeros with half an army and no horses? Clearly the show had him be very desperate and completely broken, but the degree to which his character changes is almost instant. So much build up to building this army that could actually defend the land from white walkers, or at least understands the real threat... and this is what happens?
Jon is definitely dead. But he can come back.