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Open Coaching Positions
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(01-18-2016, 05:56 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Get serious.  The Bengals have had a top 10 scoring defense in 6 of the last 8 years, but when they do something right it is just "dumb luck"?

What if I countered your argument by saying that the reason they have not drafted a good D-lineman in the past 5 years is just "bad luck".

That has absolutely nothing to do with my post fred. Keep it together. 
That scoring defense is led by the play of guys drafted before 2011 on the DL and just about everywhere TBH. Burfict and Iloka the biggest contributors drafted recently (or UDFA). But that's not the point. The point is they have wasted valuable picks on players whose type and style doesn't translate to the NFL anymore. 

To a degree it is bad luck. 
You can't predict injuries or other things. You can't predict that a guy will just kind of stop trying once he's in the NFL. 

Still and Thompson were "bad luck"
Hunt and Clarke were bad scouting.

Clarke and Hunt are both stiff athletes who don't bend or change direction well. They were both better weight room guys than football guys. 

The magic, was Michael Johnson (one time top 10 prospect) falling to the third and Carlos Dunlap (one time top 10 prospect) falling to the second.

The key part missing, is the talent. They were both immensely talented. Hunt and Clarke never were. 
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Open Coaching Positions - RoyleRedlegs - 01-17-2016, 03:50 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - MrRager - 01-17-2016, 03:53 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - RoyleRedlegs - 01-17-2016, 03:54 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - McC - 01-17-2016, 03:55 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - RoyleRedlegs - 01-17-2016, 03:57 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - McC - 01-17-2016, 03:59 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - RoyleRedlegs - 01-17-2016, 04:02 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - McC - 01-17-2016, 04:11 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - RoyleRedlegs - 01-17-2016, 04:35 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - magikod - 01-17-2016, 04:07 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - magikod - 01-17-2016, 03:56 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - Interceptor - 01-17-2016, 04:08 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - gobobro - 01-17-2016, 04:19 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - McC - 01-17-2016, 04:43 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - gobobro - 01-17-2016, 05:12 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - McC - 01-17-2016, 05:47 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - Go Cards - 01-17-2016, 04:56 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - Bengalholic - 01-17-2016, 05:35 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - McC - 01-17-2016, 05:49 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - Bengalholic - 01-17-2016, 05:54 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - McC - 01-17-2016, 05:56 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - RoyleRedlegs - 01-17-2016, 06:27 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - McC - 01-17-2016, 06:30 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - Bengalholic - 01-17-2016, 06:34 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - McC - 01-17-2016, 06:36 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - RoyleRedlegs - 01-17-2016, 06:37 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - HarleyDog - 01-17-2016, 06:31 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - McC - 01-17-2016, 08:45 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - RoyleRedlegs - 01-17-2016, 07:28 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - fredtoast - 01-17-2016, 08:14 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - Stormborn - 01-18-2016, 02:14 AM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - fredtoast - 01-18-2016, 01:58 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - Stormborn - 01-18-2016, 02:09 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - fredtoast - 01-18-2016, 02:19 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - Stormborn - 01-18-2016, 02:38 PM
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RE: Open Coaching Positions - Luvnit2 - 01-18-2016, 01:02 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - 3wt - 01-18-2016, 01:57 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - RoyleRedlegs - 01-18-2016, 05:40 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - fredtoast - 01-18-2016, 05:56 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - RoyleRedlegs - 01-18-2016, 06:01 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - JSR18 - 01-17-2016, 07:36 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - fredtoast - 01-17-2016, 07:42 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - Yojimbo - 01-17-2016, 07:56 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - gobobro - 01-17-2016, 08:32 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - bfine32 - 01-18-2016, 02:41 AM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - BonnieBengal - 01-18-2016, 06:11 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - Bengal Dude - 01-18-2016, 06:25 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - fredtoast - 01-18-2016, 07:35 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - BonnieBengal - 01-18-2016, 08:22 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - jj22 - 01-18-2016, 07:48 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - BonnieBengal - 01-18-2016, 08:29 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - gobobro - 01-18-2016, 10:33 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - Stormborn - 01-18-2016, 09:31 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - BonnieBengal - 01-18-2016, 09:32 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - McC - 01-18-2016, 09:35 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - McC - 01-18-2016, 09:10 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - pally - 01-18-2016, 09:24 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - McC - 01-18-2016, 09:30 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - RoyleRedlegs - 01-18-2016, 09:35 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - McC - 01-18-2016, 09:39 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - RoyleRedlegs - 01-18-2016, 09:45 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - McC - 01-18-2016, 09:48 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - RoyleRedlegs - 01-18-2016, 09:49 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - McC - 01-18-2016, 09:52 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - RoyleRedlegs - 01-18-2016, 10:05 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - McC - 01-18-2016, 11:16 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - BonnieBengal - 01-18-2016, 10:43 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - fredtoast - 01-18-2016, 10:52 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - BonnieBengal - 01-18-2016, 09:40 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - jj22 - 01-18-2016, 09:42 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - Yojimbo - 01-18-2016, 09:46 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - McC - 01-18-2016, 10:33 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - tenacious-B - 01-18-2016, 11:02 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - jj22 - 01-18-2016, 11:07 PM
RE: Open Coaching Positions - Bengal Dude - 01-19-2016, 12:34 AM
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