01-26-2016, 01:59 AM
(01-25-2016, 07:25 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: First off, if you really want to pay Marvin Jones exactly how Torrey Smith got paid, lets look at the stats...[quote pid='170165' dateline='1453760757']
Torrey Smith first 4 years: 64 games (62 starts) / 213 catches / 3,495 yards / 30 TD
Marvin Jones first 4 years: 43 games (21 starts) / 132 catches / 1,729 yards / 15 TD
Those don't look like two players who should be paid equally. The Ravens knew that was overpaying for Torrey Smith, and sure enough Smith ended up with 33/663/4 in his first year of that deal.
Secondly! Letting Torrey Smith go in FA isn't the reason they went from a 10 win team to a 5 win team. Lol.. they also lost their best pass rusher in game 1, their #1 WR in game 7, their running back in game 10, and their quarterback in game 10 as well. None of that would have been fixed by Torrey Smith.
Third and finally on this point! It DID work for them to just plug in a new guy. Kamar Aiken, undrafted nobody, who's been on four teams in the NFL stepped up and put up a 75/944/5 season even with subpar QBs throwing to him. With Smith and Perriman back in 2016, combined with Aiken, I would put the Ravens WRs ahead of the Bengals. You bash the Ravens losing their WR they drafted in the first round before the season started, but the exact same thing happened to Marvin Jones just last year, and yet you want to pay him $8m/yr instead. Doesn't make sense.
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Alex Mack actually can't be franchise tagged, he'll be almost certainly using an opt out clause.
Von Miller might not be tagged. The Broncos are currently projected for $13m in cap space in 2016. The LB tag is projected to be $14m and the DE tag is projected to be $15.5m. They could clear space to make the tag happen, but then they're basically saying goodbye to all their other FA.
Alshon Jeffery will probably get tagged because the Bears are projected to have a ton of cap space, but who knows if they think he'll be worth the $14.5m tag.
Rams have the cap space to tag Jenkins, but is he a $13.8m CB in their eyes? That'd put him behind only Revis, Sherman, and (lol) Brandon Carr (lol) in 2016 CB cap hits, but more likely just the first two since there's almost no chance Carr doesn't get cut.
Torreys last two years in bmore compared to MLJs last two healthy years shows you the production isnt that far off. About 400 more yards for Torrey and 1 more TD and that was with him being a #1 wr a full year before steve smith showed up. San fran was a train wreck. Not surprising his numbers sucked.
The ravens started 3-7. They sucked with their QB and #1 wr and rb. Losing Torreys big play ability was more than a little part of that. Hence why they trade to replace his big play ability with a speedy first round pick wr. Damn near all their games were close. Having a dependable WR could have easily swayed those outcomes.
They didnt just plug Kamar in. It was the guys 5th year in the league. He played in all 16 games for them in 2014. And was on their practice squad in 2013.
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Marvin is going to get paid. We have money to spend. And we have built a successful team retaining guys who we have built up. I dont see any reason to change that formula that has proven to work around the league. You know we are not going to make somebody the highest paid center in the league. We wont sign the best pass rushing LB in the league he might get a 100mil contract. The Rams cant afford to let on of their best players leave i havent looked but they probably dont have many players even in the discussion about being taggable. And we wont sign the best free agent WR available.
If and when we give out hefty contracts this year it will be to our own. And I would like to keep a lot of this 12-4 team together.
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