01-26-2016, 08:53 AM
(01-25-2016, 04:26 PM)Sovereign Nation Wrote: Seriously? This is your take? "His receivers are garbage"?
By your standards, Marvin Jones - Garbage. Mo Sanu - Garbage. AJ Green - overrated.
If you think Ginn isn't a good WR then your ability to assess talent is in question.
Miami - a terrible franchise that didn't know how to use him. He is fast. He takes off the top of the defense. Of course if you only send him deep with a QB that can't throw deep, his stats will reflect that.
SF - another organization that didn't have a QB that could throw deep.
AZ - didn't have Palmer to throw to him when he was there.
Ginn developed a reputation as a WR that "couldn't hold onto the ball" due to people listening to the media. I can't tell you how many times this season, the analyst would say that he has a problem with dropped passes, only for him to make a great catch. Any time he dropped a pass, you would hear them get ready to pile on that he drops passes, only for him to come back and make the catch.
Does he catch everything? No, but find me a WR who does. Does his speed give him an element that helps the Panthers? Yep. His ability to go deep means that the defenses have to account for him, because if they don't and he is Cam's primary target, you now have a guy completely wide open for Cam to throw to.
The fact that you think Funchess, a rookie WR, "looked like a bust" is very telling on how much you have bought into the Cam hype.
Stewart hasn't been as injured as you make him out to be. Olsen is one of the top TEs in the league.
Want some proof that scheme is important to how a player performs? Jimmy Graham, great in NO, not so great in Seattle.
Matt Cassell tore it up in NE when he covered for Brady - not so good elsewhere
Mike Wallace was good in Pittsburgh - hasn't wowed since leaving.
TJ Housh - was a favorite Bengal - then failed in Seattle and Baltimore.
I could go on. I hope you get the point.
You haven't said anything I didn't though. I said Cam has made him good, he has been garbage before. That's just a fact. He was and still is a sloppy/limited route runner. He excels burning people deep. How can you ignore the fact that Cam's arm and scrambling ability is the reason Ginn so often able to get open deep. I agree players are a product of circumstance and being in the right scheme often. Cam has had success throughout college and the NFL so far, Ginn hasn't. So Ginn is clearly the one benefiting most from Cam, not the other way round.
Fyi- I never said Funchess looked like a bust, that was someone else.
