Real reason why Hue left

[Benton]

(04-11-2016, 04:11 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: I've actually been saying the same thing about Tobin the last couple days, so obviously I agree with you - but it's not like those things were totally obvious when Marv took the job. we can only say that now with the benefit of hindsight.

Chad, TJ, Rudi, etc were still pretty green going into 2003. Unlike Fred though, I don't think Marv made those players. I also think it's silly to act like Marv flipped the whole team over in 2 years. He didn't. He inherited the core.

All I've been trying to say is that - to Hue - the Browns current sitch probably doesn't look any worse than the sitch Marv walked into, on the surface. Only time will tell.

Back then I don't think anyone really knew anything about Tobin. And really, it's still mostly speculation. But I like cause and effect, and it wasn't long after we hired Tobin that we started making very good player and personnel decisions. Back then, I was just happy we were drafting better. And you could be right, the Browns may have finally found their Tobin (or Marvin or Katie or whoever it was that changed the environment here).