Real reason why Hue left

[Shake n Blake]

(04-11-2016, 05:00 PM)Benton Wrote: Back then I don't think anyone really knew anything about Tobin. And really, it's still mostly speculation. But I like cause and effect, and it wasn't long after we hired Tobin that we started making very good player and personnel decisions. Back then, I was just happy we were drafting better. And you could be right, the Browns may have finally found their Tobin (or Marvin or Katie or whoever it was that changed the environment here).

Totally agree. Tobin was hired in '99 and promoted to his current role as quasi-GM in 2002. His drafts have been the backbone for all the winning teams we've had. Marvin isn't the one out scouting and recommending these players during the college season. I'm sure he has a good amount of input and possibly the final say, but I really think Tobin is more responsible for finding these guys like the Geno's, MJ's and Iloka's.

As for the Browns, who knows? Maybe this analytics guy will be a big success. It's easy to laugh at them, but I think it's worth a shot.

(04-11-2016, 05:37 PM)fredtoast Wrote: It is not "acting" when I post the numbers.

In two years Marvin flipped 2/3rds of the starters and 3/4ths of the entire roster.

Fred, name the top 10 players from the 2005 squad.

Marv brought us Tory and Deltha. The rest will be players that he inherited.