04-17-2016, 01:17 AM
(04-16-2016, 09:55 PM)bfine32 Wrote: You can gladly take whomever you wish. I'll take the 24 year old RB that has missed 3 in the last 3 years over the 29 year old that has missed 13.
I wasn't talking of who I would want in the future, because yeah, Charles will be playing his age 29 season in 2016. I was just saying if knowing what you know right now, you could choose a player to have from 2013-2015 (the window that was talked about at the beginning of the thread), I would have chosen Charles over Bernard.
Charles' 2013 season alone probably takes the Bengals to the SB that year.
Charles' 2014 season combined with Hill's 2014 season would make the loss of all the Bengals' passcatchers much much less important with two RBs with 1,000+ yards at 5.0 YPC or better. Dalton might cruise through the playoffs that year on like.. 10 pass attempts per game. Lol
(04-17-2016, 12:18 AM)Essex Johnson Wrote: What is silly is that you get bent out of shape when I make a reasonable statement. As I stated outside of YPC which I stated Charles is clear edge... there is not a lot of difference between the two players after three seasons.
Total yards 3,981 for Charles to 3,440, Avg per year: Charles 1,327 to Gio 1,147, Carries Gio 495 to 480, Catches Gio 148 to 112 for Charles TDs- Charles 17 to Gio 14. So Charles has edge in yards, slight edge in TDs, and Gio has edge in receptions. This does not look like a landslide victory that you seemed to bent on outside of YPC which I gave him.
and I am going to make a bold prediction that after season 4, Gio will have more of every category except for YPC... would you like to take that bet ?? I am confident that Gio will stay much more healthy than Charles since Charles only played a couple games in season 4 but if Charles had just a great advantage after 3 years as you have so strongly defended how in the world could poor Gio over take him after 4 seasons even with a injury..
Not bent out of shape, just thought it was silly. Charles had basically a non-existant rookie season as a 3rd round pick. Gio got much more chance early on as a real early 2nd round pick. Once he got a chance he kept getting better and better.
By his third year, he finished 2nd in the NFL in rushing yards, a Pro Bowler, and an All-Pro.
I wasn't focusing on the YPC that much, but the fact that if you look at it by year rather than as an amassed whole, their careers have been very different. We'll ignore YPC, TD, everything else besides total yards since that's what you're focusing on.
Year 1
Gio: 1,209
Charles: 629
Year 2
Gio: 1,029
Charles: 1,417
Year 3
Gio: 1,202
Charles: 1,935
Gio has been a very consistent good from day 1, while Charles had a very small first year. After that first year though, Charles turned it up to 11 and begun blowing Gio out of the water. That's why the total and to average it out is a bit meh to use to say they have had similar careers to start.
Mike Leake had a better ERA his rookie season than Clayton Kershaw did, but after that Kershaw blew him out of the water. Pretty much the same deal here.
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