All games matter...don't they?

[Shake n Blake]

(04-21-2016, 06:41 PM)Benton Wrote: I dunno, I just can't buy into him as an elite QB. It's the Rex Grossman effect: the guy puts up a 120 QBR, 5 TDs/0 INTs one week, has a 30 QBR, 0 TD/5 INTs the next against competition that's not much difference than he just faced. Those aren't specific numbers, it's just that unexpected swing. To me, Eli is only as good as his line and receivers and how well the team is firing.

Ben isn't the kind of guy to have a type of game where Eli's on, but I don't think his bad games are nearly as bad. When the rest of the team is sucking, I don't think Ben is always sucking along with them. He's got off games, buthis good games are as dependent on the team.

When I'm watching a game and the Giants are clicking, I'm not thinking about Eli, I'm thinking about their receivers and (in the past) their defense.

I'm not sure I buy either one being a truly elite QB. Maybe Ben is a smidge closer, but for all the hype over the Steelers passing game last season, Ben only threw 21 TDs to 16 INTs. I don't think Eli's inconsistency is game to game. It's more season to season. He'll have an elite 4500 yard, 30 TD, 12 INT year, then follow it by throwing 20+ INTs the next year.

While Eli hasn't been as consistent year to year as Ben (who has had some "meh" seasons himself), the thing he has on Ben is that he actually carried the Giants through the playoffs. Sure, their defense was great in the SB runs, but Eli himself was lights out. Ben has had some pretty rough playoff games and Super Bowls. Fwiw, if I'm picking between the Steelers' D and the Giants' D in the SB years, I'd take the Steelers every time.

Eli has taken some pretty mediocre looking 9-7 teams to the SB, whereas Ben hasn't been back since the Steelers started looking like a normal team.

As for weapons, I think it's a push. Eli has Beckham now, but he's made names out of guys like Hakeem Nicks, Steve Smith, Cruz, etc. Ben has had Antonio Brown, Ward, Heath, Mike Wallace, etc. I don't feel like Ben "made" those guys.