B/R ranks Bengals QB supporting cast #1

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(06-24-2015, 09:43 AM)djs7685 Wrote: Which NFL QB does this not apply to? I'm just saying, most QBs "pick teams apart" when they have a completely clean pocket. You can't expect it to always be clean though, no offensive line in the history of the league has a 100% success rate, guys are playing defense for a reason.

It's also not always the case though with Andy picking teams apart when clean. These are stats with only passes where Andy had no pressure at all...

IND - 16/29, 55.2% completion, 91 yards, 0 TD, 0 INT, 3.1 YPA
CLE1 - 8/24, 33.3% completion, 60 yards, 0 TD, 2 INT, 2.5 YPA

Sometimes Andy just seems "off" even when he isn't being pressured, and that is probably his biggest issue with his bad games being SO bad.

I think we do agree that Andy's success does rely heavily on keeping him upright because throughout his career he's always been average or worse (usually pretty bad) under pressure. Luckily, his quick release along with the offensive line's ability to pass protect has kept him clean more than almost any other QB in the league over the last 4 years.

Andy needs everyone around him healthy, he needs to improve a little bit under pressure, and he needs to not have his bad games be SO bad. If those things happen, I don't see why he couldn't have a career year with the Bengals winning a playoff game or two. I have some amount of faith in Andy even though I don't think he's a good QB right now.

I'm not sure where you are getting that he had no pressure on these passes.  He was sacked six times in those two games, and he didn't have AJ Green for either of them as well.  They were kind of playoff previews of what he would be dealing with. 

I guess I should have included "and he has at least one WR that can generate an ounce of separation".  If you still have access to the Colts/Bengals playoff game, watch it again.  I know, take some antacid first, but watch it.  He had to fit the ball in to the tiniest of windows.  He was doing it as well, but it really tells the story of what you don't see happen to many other QBs.  I am always amazed at the separation of the WRs that putzburg gets against opposing defenses. I think Todd Haley is a genius as a coordinator.  He may act like an ass clown, but his route designs are amazing.  Big Jen hardly every has an opposing DB in the screen with his WRs.  Most of his INTs come off tipped passes. 

Back to original subject:  Although you can simplify my statement about being kept clean to "every QB can do that", but maybe you should be asking yourself "What QB has to deal with that in the playoffs?"  Luck sure didn't against the Bengals and Broncos.  Brady never seems to have to deal with it except for two losses to the Giants.  Again, not asking for perfection, but if you don't take in to account the pressure he was under or even the lack of weapons he had in those games, then you might as well just hate him for being a redhead.