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(05-05-2016, 03:16 PM)Penn Wrote: That door swings both ways.  If the grounds were properly maintained, plus while on the property the owners never saw anything amiss in behavior and no one ever reported the after hours activities at the caretakers residence, well, then it is reasonable for the ownership to not know.  How exactly do you feel it is reasonably expected that the owners would know even if all appearances indicated nothing was going on?  The burden to demonstrate it is reasonable is on the plaintiff.  Present that case.

As you saw in my first post in this thread, I am definitely not among those with hostility towards Brad.  In fact, even though this whole situation disrespects the final resting place of over a dozen of my relatives, neither this topic nor any past debates Brad has had on this forum dissuade me from having sympathy for him.  I just think legally and morally he is wrong here.
It doesn't matter if they knew or not.

The caretaker is the main employee of the cemetery and actually even more involved than all of the people higher up than him.  By giving him the house and the power to maintain it all, they are responsible for his actions.
(05-05-2016, 03:49 PM)michaelsean Wrote: And Brad when you say the gates should have been locked (although I don't see how that's a law), are you saying you and your friends should have been protected from your own stupidity?  The times you comment in P&R, you seem to be pretty conservative.  Is that how a conservative would view things?
We were 15.

The gates were supposed to be locked and the grounds protected.  Instead, 15-year-olds (and younger because it had been happening for a while) were invited by the owner's son to drink alcohol and party back there to do whatever we wanted.  The caretaker's wife had even talked to my mom a few weeks earlier and told them that we were welcome back there when they had parties because we weren't bothering anyone (my mom, of course, didn't know they let us drink).
(05-05-2016, 03:53 PM)Wyche Wrote: Bonfires and concerts in a cemetery?  WTF?

Their house is back there, so they just let us go crazy in the cemetery.
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