05-10-2016, 04:36 PM
(05-09-2016, 10:01 AM)JS-Steelerfan Wrote: I don't know who's right here, but I have to say that you are remarkably consistent in your attempts to defend yourself against the use of actual evidence."Actual evidence"?! The board is no longer in existence. Pat posted some link that said it proved he was right, but I didn't even bother to look because, if it had proved he was right and didn't defend a woman-beater, he would have posted the actual link to the thread because being called the defender of a woman-beater is a serious thing.
On top of everything, we all remember how it happened, so that's the evidence.
(05-09-2016, 10:19 AM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Apparently "everyone" is Brad. In fact, the reason I put you on ignore was because after I said "the reason the Ravens may have waited until the video surfaced was that they were worried he'd challenge the legality of the punishment and being cut if it happened before the video was released". I, however, called for him to be cut as soon as the details were released about him assaulting her.
It's pretty clear I was not defending Ray Rice. You then started going on about how I was defending him and supporting his attack on her. No one in their right mind would even think that, but you're not in your right mind. You sit here and defend Pacman while trying to attack me for defending Ray Rice even though I have never defended him. I believe I called you a "sack of shit", an opinion I still hold about you. Anyone who defends men who attack women is a waste of space.
Why would they need to wait for the video to surface?! I'm putting this in bold because, if you could offer one logical possibility, it MIGHT lend some credibility to your defense: WHAT ELSE COULD POSSIBLY HAVE HAPPENED THAT CAUSED HER TO SUDDENLY BE UNCONSCIOUS?! I started an entire thread on the old board and you pulled the same thing Fred did in another thread and just posted something off-the-wall so you wouldn't have to answer.
How could he have possibly challenged the legality of the punishment? If this were any other team, like, say, the Bengals, would you have given him the same freedom from judgment?
Finally, and I'm also putting this in bold so you can't ignore it (just like you did on the old boards): you DIDN'T call him for him to be cut after the video was release, you called him a piece of shit, BUT WHY WOULDN'T YOU HAVE CALLED HIM A PIECE OF SHIT BEFORE THE VIDEO WAS RELEASED IF IT WAS JUST ABOUT SUSPENDING HIM?!
Funny how you call me a sack of shit, yet I'm not the one defending a man who just hit a woman while not being provoked.
(05-09-2016, 04:11 PM)StrictlyBiz Wrote: I don't know exactly what went down, but if it did like you describe, then he's not really being hypocritical at all.Really?!
A lot of accusations are thrown at players and there's nothing wrong with waiting for the all of the facts to come out before you make up your mind. If Pats stance was 'wait and see' and didn't condemn him until the video surfaced, then so what?
Remember the Duke Lacross team?
Jerome Bettis was accused of raping a girl during training camp at the end of his career. Turned out to be total BS.
How about Ickey Woods and half of your last Bengal team to win a playoff game being accused of gang raping a girl in Seattle in the 90s? Did you condemn Ickey then and almost 1/2 the team back then? Or did you think that she deserved it because of gender equality?
http://www.nytimes.com/1992/09/09/sports/pro-football-20-named-in-rape-case.html
Offer any logical explanation of why she would suddenly be unconscious when the elevator doors open that didn't involve him knocking her out, and remember that they were also arguing, so it would have to be able to throw that out as a possibility.
(05-10-2016, 07:00 AM)JS-Steelerfan Wrote: You're wasting your time. Brad only applies common sense like this to situations involving the Bengals. In his mind, everyone else is immediately guilty, because of course they are.
Common sense?! You accuse me of not using common sense when you're all the ones trying to say that there could have been some other explanation for her being unconscious?!
I didn't think Steelers and Ravens fans could possibly be any more delusional.