Rank our Backup QB

[Shake n Blake]

Quote:1. First of all , no I didn't say anything disrespectful. Second, my opininion is no more or less "asinine" than yours or anyone elses. 2. I did not say that AJ is on the same level as Dalton. What I am saying is that if given the opportunity to play and develop, AJ could quickly get to or beyond Dalton's level and it wouldn't take him until his fifth year to show something more than average play. 3. Also ,I'm not running for office around here so I'm fine with having a lonely opinion. Yes Dalton made alot of good throws and did it pretty consistently last year for the first time in his career. I hope that continues. As for the playoffs I gave Andy a pass his first two years. When he continued to stink it up for the next two, I was ready to move on. If he can pick up where he left off last year, and be something more than awful on the big stage, I will gladly hop on the bandwagon and be thrilled about being proven wrong.

Sure, Dalton has won some regular season games against good teams, good job, I hope to see more of that.

4. Ok here is my look at Andy's 10 wins of 2014.

@BAL (10-6)- 25-38, 301 with 1TD and 0 INT
GOOD GAME ! AJ Green had 131 YDS and 1 TD

Vs ATL(6-10) - 15-24, 252 with 1TD and 0 INT
Andy executed run heavy, dink and dunk fest well. Game manager type performance. Matt Ryan threw 3 INT. AJ Green not on the boxscore.

Vs TENN(2-14) - 15 - 23, 169 with 0 TD and 1 INT
Game manager type performance. Tenn was lousy Jake Locker threw 2 INT. AJ Green had 102 YDS

Vs BAL(10-6) - 21 - 28, 266 with 0 TD and 1INT
I'm going to say good game despite the pick. Nic game winning drive at the end.AJ Green not on the boxscore

Vs JAX(3-13) - 19 - 31, 233 with 2 TD and 2 INT
Game manager type performance. Hill ran wild and Jax was terrible. AJ Green had 44 YDS and 1 TD

@ NO(7-9) - 16 - 22, 220 with 3 TD and 0 INT
Good game against so-so NO team. Hill ran wild again. AJ Green had 127 YDS and 1 TD

@ HOU(9-7) - 24 - 35, 233 with 1 TD and 1 INT
Game manager type performance against Mallet led Texans. AJ Green had 121 YDS.

@ TB(2-14) - 19 - 27, 176 with 1 TD and 3 INT
Bad game against bad Bucs. AJ Green had 57 YDS and 1 TD

@ CLE(7-9) - 14 - 24, 117 with 0 TD and 1 INT
Bad game against Manziel led Browns. AJ Green had 49 YDS. Hill and Gio carried the Offense in this one

Vs DEN(12-4) - 17 - 26, 146 with 2 TD and 1 INT
Game manager type performance. Hill ran wild. Manning threw 4 INT. AJ Green was a decoy.

So here is "how" Andy Dalton won 10 games in 2014....

3 "good" games.
5 "game manager" wins.
2 wins where he won despite being terrible.

Also, not counting the decoy game against Denver, AJ Green played in 7 of those wins and had 100 YDS and/or a touchdown in 6 of those wins.

This is why "people like me" insinuate that Dalton is carried by a talented roster and why 2014 does not "put to bed" the fact that Andy Dalton has been a game manager at best for the first four seasons of his career.

Now as for 2015. Andy Dalton was mostly VERY good and I like that but I need to see more before I can forget what he has been for 4 years. As for the numbers that Andy and AJ were on pace for....5th year man Dalton's look very good and 5th game man Mccarron's look alot like Dalton in years 1 through 4.

1. Maybe it's just me, but I think comparing a 2nd round pick with a resume like Dalton's to a 5th round pick who has accomplished zilch at the NFL level is very disrespectful of Dalton and his accomplishments. Any time you take a stance that goes against the consensus and you back it only with biased speculation and no facts to support your argument, that's the definition of asinine to me. I at least try to back my claims with evidence.

2. Right. You're not saying Dalton is on McCarron's level now, just that he will - rather easily - surpass the level of a QB who was in the MVP discussion for 12 weeks and posted an all-time Bengals record 106.2 passer rating. Okey-doke.

3. Fair enough, but if you're going to make such bold claims with little to no evidence to back that claim, expect to get called out.

4. I count 9 games where Dalton was a key factor in us winning. Where he managed to lead a very good offense despite an almost complete lack of receiving talent around him. He posted an 88.0 rating in these 10 games. Completed 67% of his throws. Averaged 7.66 YPA. Amazing numbers considering Sanu was his #1 target for 5 games and we were trying guys like Greg Little. 

The fact that you just said that McCarron could easily get beyond Dalton's current level is by far the most ridiculous thing you've said though. I honestly can't take you seriously now. You've made your anti-Dalton bias abundantly clear, and your optimism regarding McCarron is through the roof...with no evidence to support it. Again, the kid has won 2 games - against a pair of 5-11 teams. Btw, if you classify both McC and Dalton as game managers, what makes you think McC will "easily" surpass Dalton's current level (which you seem to begrudgingly admit is not as a game manager)?