Finally getting some legitimate analysis of Kirkpatrick's play in '15

[*Wyche'sWarrior*]

(08-03-2016, 05:27 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: I would say slightly above average is just fine when you look at the success rate of all corners even those in the 1st round.  Lets just reflect on his draft year and the year after in the 1st round.

Morris Claiborne #6 pick-  I would call this a bust for Dallas
Mark Barron #7 pick- TB traded him for 4/6th round pick, 3rd year in.. Bust
Stephen Gilmore #10 pick- has been a solid pick
Dee Miliner - #9 pick-  has not lived up to his draft pick,, possible bust
Desmond Trufant- #22-  Success
DJ Hayden #12-  might be a backup this year, Raiders declined 5th year option.. not looking good.
All of theses picks except Trufant were  above Dre's #17.  Outside of Gilmore and Trufant, I would take Dre over all the others.

(08-03-2016, 06:10 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Two things that immediately stick out to me:

Claiborne and Dre have almost identical stats in the same amount of time in the NFL, but one's a bust and one's slightly above average.

Mark Barron is not a CB, but I would take him any day of the week over Dre

Now if you look at the CBs that went immediately after Dre (the ones we actually had a chance to get) you have:

Janoris Jenkins
Casey Hayward
Trumaine Johnson
Josh Robinson

Go to the next year and look at the CBs that went immediately after the Bengal pick and you have:
Desmond Trufant
Xavier Rhoades
Darrius Slay
Johnathan Banks

How many of them would you take over Dre?

*ahem*

Thanks for the leg work b....the point in all of this is that he can be upgraded, and there's no need to overpay him going forward.  In fact, some might even say we should have let him test the market this year and got him for a discount, freeing up cash for a one or two year gig for Reggie Nelson.  Yeah, it would have been a risk with Leon down, and Dennard STILL an unknown.....but if Dennard can play at this level, would it really be that much of a step back?  Antonio Brown OWNED Dre at Pitt, I mean embarrassed him.  We gotta have people who can cover our division opponents.  As I said, dude is decent, but is he worth the nickels? My opinion, no. Maybe yours is different, and that's fine too.