08-12-2016, 11:35 PM
(08-12-2016, 11:10 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: agree but bottom line.. the cupboard of the Bengals when Marvin took over was not just empty but destroyed... so no doubt Marvin had less to work with than Zimmer.. but lets give credit to both of them... I rather have either really as a coach than many other coaches out there now in NFL>
Marvin inherited Chad, TJ, Corey, Rudi, Levi, Willie, Braham, Justin Smith and Brian Simmons, among others. Plus he inherited the rights to draft Palmer (the consensus #1 pick).
Most of this talent was young and unable to help the team win in 2002, but the cupboard was far from bare. Unless you think these players weren't talented.
To Wes: Yes, I would take Zimmer. Appreciate Marv changing the culture, but things have stagnated. The goal is to win championships, and if you're not making progress towards that, you need change. Zimmer would bring change and at minimum he's a proven winner in regular season, which is exactly what Marv is after 14 years.
The training, nutrition, medicine, fitness, playbooks and rules evolve. The athlete does not.
