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A few questions to ponder
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(07-05-2015, 12:23 PM)fredtoast Wrote: So you are admitting that dalton is better tyhan some Super Bowl QBs yet you still say it is impossible for him to make it to a Super Bowl?  What kind of logic is that.

In '07 when Eli won his first Super Bowl his career numbers looked like this.  .  77 tds.  .  64 ints.  .  .  73.2 rating

Flacco's career passer rating was only 86.0 when he won a Super Bowl in 2012.

And you claim that Dalton is "not even close to Jake Delhomme, to be honest".  Well I'll be honest and point out that when Delhomme went to the Super Bowl in '03 his career numbers were.  .  .  22 tds.  .  21 ints.  .  .  78.7 rating.

Now, you might want to come back and say that all these guys raised their games in the playoffs, but the fact is that none of them had ever done it before they actually did it and made it to the Super Bowl. Flacco's playoff passer rating was 70.4 before 2012 and he was only throwing for 170.2 yards per game.  Eli's postseason passer rating was 53.4 with 137.5 yards per game before '07, and Delhomme had never even been to the playoffs. 

Ok, now these points all make sense and it's why AD is such a polarizing figure. In no way, shape, or form do I think AD couldn't do it or is completely incapable. Just like I said Marvin could reinvent himself and get better - even though he deserved to be fired after 2010. Marvin took a long time to figure it out, but he's a really good coach at this point. 

With AD, until he does it, I will be less than enthusiastic on the chances. His problems are mental. Physically, he can do it, but the mental hurdles are what scares me when it comes to enthusiasm of his chances. His inconsistency is maddening and it is the biggest factor holding the team back from being great instead of good.

Delhomme's career arc is better than AD's when you look at his ceiling he hit. That was my point. If the guy can play lights out then I would take that on a gamble that he won't be really crappy, either. DOes that make sense what I was illustrating with the Delhomme point?

Eli Manning played big in big games and can elevate his play from being bad to outstanding. THAT is what AD needs to do - and has had opportunity to do, but hasn't. Same with a lot of the non-elite guys who have made it to the Superbowl. It is frustrating to watch AD have the tools to elevate his play 3 times and go the opposite direction. The game against the Colts I will absolutely hold against no one.

The above is why McCarron has me curious. It's not a bigger arm or mobility that's needed. It's mindset. We'll see how it shakes out.
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A few questions to ponder - CornerBlitz - 07-04-2015, 02:11 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - PApinhead - 07-04-2015, 02:24 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - Joe Pong - 07-04-2015, 05:29 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - PApinhead - 07-04-2015, 11:58 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - rfaulk34 - 07-04-2015, 02:49 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - fredtoast - 07-04-2015, 03:03 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - rfaulk34 - 07-04-2015, 03:12 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - PDub80 - 07-04-2015, 04:17 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - rfaulk34 - 07-04-2015, 04:41 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - fredtoast - 07-05-2015, 11:28 AM
RE: A few questions to ponder - PDub80 - 07-05-2015, 12:19 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - fredtoast - 07-05-2015, 12:40 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - PDub80 - 07-05-2015, 01:00 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - fredtoast - 07-05-2015, 12:43 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - PDub80 - 07-05-2015, 12:50 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - fredtoast - 07-05-2015, 12:52 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - Beaker - 07-05-2015, 04:18 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - djs7685 - 07-05-2015, 06:12 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - Beaker - 07-05-2015, 07:20 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - djs7685 - 07-05-2015, 08:48 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - Beaker - 07-06-2015, 01:09 AM
RE: A few questions to ponder - fredtoast - 07-05-2015, 12:23 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - PDub80 - 07-05-2015, 12:45 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - Brownshoe - 07-06-2015, 02:17 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - PDub80 - 07-06-2015, 09:10 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - Tim_B - 07-04-2015, 06:59 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - PDub80 - 07-05-2015, 10:33 AM
RE: A few questions to ponder - J24 - 07-05-2015, 12:02 AM
RE: A few questions to ponder - Beaker - 07-05-2015, 09:40 AM
RE: A few questions to ponder - SHRacerX - 07-05-2015, 10:50 AM
RE: A few questions to ponder - bfine32 - 07-05-2015, 01:18 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - samhain - 07-05-2015, 06:14 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - spazz70 - 07-05-2015, 02:04 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - samhain - 07-05-2015, 03:27 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - J24 - 07-05-2015, 05:37 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - samhain - 07-05-2015, 06:00 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - fredtoast - 07-05-2015, 03:34 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - GodFather - 07-05-2015, 09:17 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - fredtoast - 07-05-2015, 09:30 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - GodFather - 07-05-2015, 09:57 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - fredtoast - 07-06-2015, 01:19 AM
RE: A few questions to ponder - Brownshoe - 07-06-2015, 03:28 AM
RE: A few questions to ponder - t3r3e3 - 07-06-2015, 02:28 AM
RE: A few questions to ponder - fredtoast - 07-05-2015, 09:57 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - Tim_B - 07-06-2015, 03:50 AM
RE: A few questions to ponder - Tim_B - 07-06-2015, 06:38 AM
RE: A few questions to ponder - fredtoast - 07-06-2015, 01:07 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - djs7685 - 07-06-2015, 08:52 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - fredtoast - 07-07-2015, 01:11 AM
RE: A few questions to ponder - djs7685 - 07-07-2015, 08:23 AM
RE: A few questions to ponder - djs7685 - 07-07-2015, 02:10 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - fredtoast - 07-07-2015, 06:21 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - djs7685 - 07-08-2015, 07:24 AM
RE: A few questions to ponder - fredtoast - 07-08-2015, 09:33 AM
RE: A few questions to ponder - djs7685 - 07-08-2015, 09:40 AM
RE: A few questions to ponder - fredtoast - 07-08-2015, 10:04 AM
RE: A few questions to ponder - fredtoast - 07-08-2015, 09:52 AM
RE: A few questions to ponder - fredtoast - 07-08-2015, 10:11 AM
RE: A few questions to ponder - djs7685 - 07-08-2015, 10:14 AM
RE: A few questions to ponder - fredtoast - 07-08-2015, 10:56 AM
RE: A few questions to ponder - djs7685 - 07-08-2015, 11:18 AM
RE: A few questions to ponder - fredtoast - 07-08-2015, 11:48 AM
RE: A few questions to ponder - djs7685 - 07-08-2015, 11:55 AM
RE: A few questions to ponder - fredtoast - 07-08-2015, 01:05 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - djs7685 - 07-08-2015, 01:14 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - PDub80 - 07-08-2015, 02:16 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - PDub80 - 07-08-2015, 02:29 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - djs7685 - 07-08-2015, 03:05 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - djs7685 - 07-09-2015, 08:24 AM
RE: A few questions to ponder - PDub80 - 07-08-2015, 02:27 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - PDub80 - 07-08-2015, 02:50 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - Brownshoe - 07-08-2015, 11:53 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - WhoDeyWho - 07-09-2015, 12:53 AM
RE: A few questions to ponder - Benton - 07-06-2015, 11:40 AM
RE: A few questions to ponder - grampahol - 07-06-2015, 03:33 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - fredtoast - 07-06-2015, 07:02 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - Synric - 07-08-2015, 02:27 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - djs7685 - 07-08-2015, 10:14 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - djs7685 - 07-09-2015, 03:27 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - PDub80 - 07-09-2015, 03:49 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - djs7685 - 07-09-2015, 03:54 PM
RE: A few questions to ponder - PhilHos - 07-10-2015, 12:24 PM

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