07-07-2015, 03:28 PM
(07-07-2015, 03:10 PM)J24 Wrote: Here is the problem with Andy Dalton he is not an elite QB but he has been given an elite QB workload. We need to be a team that focuses on running the ball and playing defense with a little bit of passing mixed in. Not throw the ball every down and run the ball every once in a while. That's one the main reasons why I think this team can win a super bowl is because Hue has a better understanding of that then Jay ever did. If you look at Russell Wilson he has never been asked to carry the load offensively with his arm. For example the most pass attempts he has ever thrown in an NFL game was 37. Andy on the other hand has had 14 games in witch he has thrown over 40 attempts. In the playoffs Russell Wilson most attempts in a game was 36 and he averages 25 throws per a playoff game. Andy most attempts in a playoff game was 51 and he averages 40 attempts per a playoff game.
1. Andy was at his best under Jay Gruden. The offense as a whole has performed at a higher level under Gruden than Hue. You say this "Hue understands more" from thread to thread yet you ignore when someone brings up that Gruden has proven much more than Hue has at this point.
2. "Wilson hasn't been asked to carry the load" is a myth. You added in the part "with his arm", but what does it matter if it's with his arm or his legs? The fact is, Wilson has averaged 32.5 touches per game (simply using pass attempts + rush attempts for these examples) over his NFL career, which is hardly the coaching staff never asking him to do the heavy lifting for his team. For reference, Andy averages around 36.18 touches per game, less than 4 more than RW. A guy like Andrew Luck touches the ball a lot, and his number is right around 41.7 touches per game.
Using these 3 examples, Andy is somewhere around average compared to other NFL QBs, Luck is a little on the high side, and RW is a little on the low side. Now, if you want to compare Luck and RW, it may look a bit off since there's a 9.2 touch per game difference, but most NFL QBs are going to be comparable in this regard, and a small handful of touches per game one way or the other isn't the extreme difference that many people around here want to make it seem. I feel like people just want stuff to use as excuses so they can ***** about different things.
"Andy is asked to do so much!" and "So and so isn't asked to do anything offensively!" are just bullshit myths that people create to spin the stats in their favor. In reality, EVERY NFL QB is asked to do a lot. Hell, even the year that Peterson rushed for 2,100 yards, Christian Ponder averaged around 33 touches per game. Crazy, huh? He also ended a year with an 81 passer rating. But wait, I thought having the best RB in the league guaranteed the QB an easy time? I guess that puts that myth to rest too!
It's the same as the people that claim that Andy releasing the ball a slight fraction of a second less than somebody else is what made our offensive line give up 20 less sacks and 50 less hurries than the other team
