10-13-2016, 08:20 PM
(10-13-2016, 08:07 PM)fredtoast Wrote: You don't even understand the question.
We had the same coaches in '09 and '10. So how could the coaches account for the difference between the two seasons?
They can't. We overachieved in 2009 and that same team was given a schedule that no amount of "having Lavernius Coles instead of TO" could have saved.
(10-12-2016, 06:14 AM)kevin Wrote: Those teams had Ocho who wanted to be traded, demanded to be traded after 2007 season and Carson who demanded to be traded after 2010 season. Keeping Ocho who wanted to be traded was not good on Mike Browns part. Before 2008, I would have got him out of here as he put the team down every day. Why would you want players that don't want to be here ?....Picking up Owens to go with Ocho was so over rated. Both had seen there better days and were at the end. It was the Over The Hill Gang Rides Again. The best thing this team did was say good bye to TO, Ocho and trade Carson to Oakland. Best move they ever made.
Methinks this is some revisionist history. I recall everyone being quite amazed and enthused at how rejuvenated and gleeful Carson looked during his first game sans Chad and TO when our team that couldn't beat a 4-12 team managed to beat the crap out of the Chargers who were playing for their playoff lives. We had visions of Carson and Jerome Simpson being the next decent connection around here and a 4 TD performance to base it on. Gee, 2011 could be pretty ok after all!
Marvin caves on his demands, Carson demands a trade and we decide Carson was one of the big reasons we were awful all year. Marvin and Benson were the reasons we stunk until we kept them, so conveniently the guys who wouldn't be back just happened to be the only ones on the hook for a 4-12 season. So it goes. I mean, we went 9-7 in 2011 so all was well.