This staff wouldn't be employed at a local high school.

[Brownshoe]

(10-18-2016, 09:19 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Hard to argue with this type of logic.  

"Other peoples opinions are not facts.  Only my opinion is a fact."



Good but not great.  Our talent level is top ten in the league.  Right about where we finish every year.  When dalton was healthy the '15 team was the most talented and experienced we have had since the '88 Super Bowl team.

My opinion is backed up by facts though, unless you think those players I listed above shouldn't be considered good-great players. Their on the field play speaks louder than people's opinion. The reason I didn't list Green and Atkins too is because they're highly regarded by everyone.




If we have good but not great talent why haven't we even looked good? Run game, OL, receivers, pass rush, run defense, and secondary all haven't been playing good this season. A lot of it stems from bad coaching.


Marvin would have been fired years ago if it wasn't for Zimmer/Gruden and then Hue/Guenther + Vance Joseph.