10-21-2016, 05:10 PM
The problem with this line of thinking from Fred is that there is no end. Marv could literally go 0-20 in the playoffs, and there would still be "no proof" that Marv was very unlikely to win in the future. By that kind of logic, no coach should ever be fired. Why fire Dave Shula? Just because he went like 19-52 doesn't mean he couldn't turn it around and win in the future.
As for the Broncos and Elway, QB's have been known to turn it around under new coaches/regimes. When has a Head Coach with a lengthy history (say 10+ years) of failure at a certain level ever turned it around? Reeves went on to lose yet another SB elsewhere. Mora never got better. Levy never got a ring.
Marv's legacy will be coaching teams that were occasionally very good - but never great. Teams that would get your hopes up, only to lead to inevitable disappointment on the playoff stage. He will also be remembered for failure to control Odell/Henry and then to a lesser extent, Burfict and Pacman.
As a Bengals fan, I want to remember Marv as the guy who helped turn the franchise around, and eventually ended the playoff streak. Unfortunately I don't see it happening. The past can often tell you what's likely to happen in the future. Just as it has for the last 5 years. The sun has risen every day for a long time now. I'd say it's safe to say it'll rise again tomorrow.
As for the Broncos and Elway, QB's have been known to turn it around under new coaches/regimes. When has a Head Coach with a lengthy history (say 10+ years) of failure at a certain level ever turned it around? Reeves went on to lose yet another SB elsewhere. Mora never got better. Levy never got a ring.
Marv's legacy will be coaching teams that were occasionally very good - but never great. Teams that would get your hopes up, only to lead to inevitable disappointment on the playoff stage. He will also be remembered for failure to control Odell/Henry and then to a lesser extent, Burfict and Pacman.
As a Bengals fan, I want to remember Marv as the guy who helped turn the franchise around, and eventually ended the playoff streak. Unfortunately I don't see it happening. The past can often tell you what's likely to happen in the future. Just as it has for the last 5 years. The sun has risen every day for a long time now. I'd say it's safe to say it'll rise again tomorrow.
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