10-22-2016, 08:17 PM
(10-21-2016, 05:44 PM)Brownshoe Wrote: He's done as much as Marvin did so far in his career with less.
Marvin Lewis first 2 years. 0 division titles. 1 team above .500 in his division the first year (10-6), and 2 teams above .500 his 2nd year
Jay Gruden first 2 years. 1 division title. 2 teams above .500 in his division the first year, and 1 team above .500 his 2nd year
Marvin Lewis first two years....16-16, 5-7 against playoff teams.
Jay Gruden first two years....13-20, 1-7 against playoff teams.
You can make all the excuses you want, but none of it matters because Gruden did not accomplish anything of note his first two seasons. Winning a division title doesn't mean anything when you have a ridiculously easy schedule that includes only 3 teams with a winning record and you can't beat a single one of them. In Grudens second season he won .692 against teams that did not have winning records and .000% against teams with winning records. If he had had a schedule as tough as Marvin's second season (9 games against teams with winning records) he would have only won 4 or 5 games.
All I hear in the "Marvin is the worst coach ever" threads is "Wins don't matter if he can't beat the best teams", but then when Gruden's name come up it is "Gruden is an amazing coach even though he never beats any good teams at all." The mental gymnastics and hypocrisy you use to bash Marvin is outrageous.
