10-25-2016, 03:10 PM
(10-25-2016, 02:55 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Agree that neither is working with much, but I think the point is public perception. Andy is still viewed as a joke, while Luck is still highly respected. I'd say that if you bring up a Luck vs Dalton debate anywhere but here, 90% of casual fans around the league would laugh hysterically. Yet their performance is similar. I'd argue Dalton has surpassed him over the last couple years.
Less? Maybe. Significantly less? No. Dalton has actually been sacked at a slightly higher rate. Both have had pretty awful run game to help them out. Andy's stud receiver is better than Andrew's stud WR. Both have had good, not great play at TE. Both have had a mixed bag at #2 WR. I'd say reality hasn't quite matched the media-driven public perception of how great Andy has had it or how bad Luck has had it. It's much closer than many think, IMO. Andy has had a significantly better defense for the most part, I'll give you that, although that has little bearing on their individual performance. I'd take Luck's coaches over the Andy's.
I look at the line play before this year and think Andy has had the advantage. I think the Cincinnati receiving corps is overall much better than Indy during their careers, and don't think Hilton is even in the same conversation as Green. Tight end play similar and neither has had a great running game. Luck had Arians for one year, but then had Pep Hamilton, so overall I would take Gruden and Hue.
