10-27-2016, 08:00 PM
(10-27-2016, 07:33 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: I don't think Ben is a sure HoF QB. Or at least he shouldn't be if there wasn't a Steelers HoF bias.
How many QB that have played recently can actually get in? P Manning and Brady are locks.
That leaves Ben fighting with Brees, Rodgers, Rivers, and E Manning. Rodgers and Brees have 1 less SB than Ben and Manning, but far better stats. Ben has the worst stats for a SB win ever, so I would put him behind Eli, too. He is probably only ahead of Rivers because Rivers has no ring.
Ben is working on his 13th season. He only has 4,000+ yards 4 times. He only has 30+ tds 1 time. He has 4 Pro Bowls, 0 2nd team all-pro, 0 1st team all-pro.
I see Ben as currently 6th in line for the HoF among recent vet QBs. I don't think that gets him in. At least it shouldn't.
Eli Manning's career passer rating is 83. That's lower than Flacco, Tannehil, Alex Smith, Dalton and Matt Schuab. Eli's career completion percentage is 59.6%. That's not good enough to beat Ryan Fitzpatrick, but it does give him the 0.2% edge over Chad Henne and a 0.1% edge over Josh McCown. Stellar. He is tied for 6th all-time in one stat, but that's most pick 6's thrown.
Then there is Mr. "Winner of 4 playoff games" Rivers. He's one pick 6 away from tying Eli. Woot Woot!
Peyton will be in the HOF while Ben is still playing. Brady and Brees will get in before Ben is even eligible. Rivers is 8 playoff wins away from even getting considered. At this point, Eli only has his 2 Super Bowl wins+ MVPs putting him in the conversation. Ben is a first round lock regardless of Rodgers' eligibility.