marvin is worse then I even thought he needs to go asap

[Brownshoe]

(11-04-2016, 08:51 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Zimmer was a DC for 8 years before hecame to Cincinnati and only had one top 10 scoring defense and 3 winning seasons.  In just six years with the Bengals he had 4 top 10 scoring defenses and 4 playoff appearances.

In Hue's 3 seasons as an OC before coming to the Bengals he had zero winning seasons and only one year in the top half of the league in scoring offense.  Both seasons he was with the Bengals he made the playoffs and finished in the top half of the league in scoring.

Nether of them would be head coaches right now if they had not worked under Marvin.

Yep and what teams were they on?  The offensive oriented Cowboys team and the Raiders who didn't have a winning season in forever. When Hue was the OC for the Raiders they had their best season in 10+ years. This year is the only year they can possibly do better. The Bengals defense was horrible until Zimmer came in and fixed it. Without Zimmer we probably would never have had a defense above middle of the pack. When Zimmer took over the Cowboys defense they were ranked 32nd. Only 2 years later and he had them ranked 8th. Keep on trying to spin things without giving all the info to make it misleading. That's the only thing you really do