Our TE's - Eifert, Kroft, Uzomah

[BFritz21]

(07-21-2015, 04:06 AM)MrRager Wrote: Wha....What? I just explained how untrue this is in another thread. Being worried about only having rookie backups (or even worse, one starter) is very reasonable for the TE position. Zero players in the last five years have gained 600 yards. Only four have gained 500. Two of those were the great Pats duo, helped schemed by one of the best QBs ever, best coaches ever, and a very good offensive mind in Bill O'Brian. 

How exactly is that one of the easiest transitions? WR has proven to be much easier. Hell, look at AJ and like the 10 great rookie seasons last year. 

Expecting anything more than ~400 yards from either of these guys is putting way to much hope in these rookies. Maybe they can be the rare ones to break the mold, but I highly doubt they will be. Kroft didn't even have 300 yards his last year in college and didn't even reach 600 in his best year. You expect him to produce more in his first NFL season? Why? 

Also, don't just say SEAMS SEAMS, like you're somehow the only person in the world who has thought of wonderful scheme. Look at the Lions last year. They drafted a very talented TE in the first to pair with their solid, but not incredible stable of TEs. They even had a guy better than AJ to draw double coverage, and Tate to take even more, yet somehow Ebron didn't produce. 

Why don't Celek and Ertz dominate the game? The Eagles had a very good #1 in Maclin/Jackson, a great line, good QB play in '13, average in '14, and a good rushing attack. Why oh why hasn't Kelly just figured out how to "run them up the SEAMZ!"

Fleener and Allen are one of the best duos I can think of off the top of my head, and they still only produced around 1,200 yards. Allen didn't even have 400.

If only those coaches, and literally every single other coach in NFL history (besides the 2011 Pats) could think of this amazing plan, then maybe we would actually see the two TE system work and TEs produce in year one. But, damn, only Bradfitz has figured out this secret. 

Or maybe, football is extremely complex and simple ideas don't really work in football. Defensive coordinators are also masterminds that figure out how to slow these simple concepts down. I love football, but can easily see how much of the game is miles over my head.

I think we will be fine this year, but having practically nothing behind Eifert scares me, especially given the fact that Eifert hasn't shown very much, yet. We just need to get "enough" out of the rookies to get along this year, but think all three can be developed and we will be fine moving foward.

You wanna know why you're a joke and any reply to any post of mine can't be taken seriously?  Wide receiver is the easiest position to transition to the NFL (as I stated in the post your replied to, and even you mentioned), and I'm obviously thinking of them as receivers.

Other teams don't have backs like Hill that make it a lot easier to do what I'm suggesting, much-less two receiving tight ends and a receiver like AJ.

As far as the Colts go, they also had TY Hilton and Reggie Wayne on the outsides, so they didn't need to use TEs up the seams, and not to mention that Luck is better than Dalton, which I know you'll say "but I thought the two tight end set was unstoppable," but, again, Bradshaw and Richardson aren't anywhere near as good as Hill (who was the leading rusher in the NFL in the second half of the season.  Hell, he was the 8th best rusher in the league and didn't even get over 10 carries until week 9 and, even after, had games with only 12, 8, and 13 carries).  Not having a running back to make the defense commit backers and a safety makes a big difference.

Explain to me this:  the strong safety of a defense typically plays in the box, especially when a team has a back as good as Hill, and the other safety has to double a receiver as good as AJ, so then who is left to cover two tight ends who are pretty much receivers?  You think a backer is going to cover one of them one-on-one because a safety can't cover both.

Kroft, as I said in NUMEROUS threads, which you conveniently ignore, was used more as a run blocker in his final year at Rutgers, and 573 yards isn't exactly too shabby for a tight end in college, especially when he led the team in yards, receptions, and receiving touchdowns.

It basically comes down to this: you think a backer can single cover Eifert, Kroft, or even Uzomah, while not being able to commit to any of them right away because they need to make sure that Hill doesn't have the ball because they need to fill the hole immediately to make sure that he doesn't explode through?


It's really not that complicated.