07-22-2015, 03:49 AM
(07-21-2015, 10:46 PM)MrRager Wrote: It isn't that easy. Never coaching/playing or even being around high levels of football for years for 12 hours a day hinders us fans from being able to completely understand the game. It has become that complex.Good WR1? You think AJ is just a "good WR1"? That's why you lose credibility in arguments.
The reason I don't think, "just use the rookies properly up the seams!" isn't a viable strategy is because it has never successfully been done in the modern NFL (outside of 2011 Pats). Some message board fan has not come up with an unstoppable offense that zero offensive minds in the game can figure out. Given the facts that 1. rookie tight ends, especially 3rd/5th round guys with little experience in passing offenses) rarely produce at all, and 2. no NFL teams has made the system work, practically ever, show that it isn't simply easy.
If you think the Bengals have literally the best set up in the history of the NFL for the system and Kroft is a rookie superstar, than maybe the two TE thing will work pretty well. I happen to live in the reality that Kroft is most likely going to struggle this year, like every other rookie TE, and that the Bengals aren't the be all end all spot ever for a rookie TE.
I will also ask why every team with a good running game and good WR1 aren't falling over for TEs? If the system were so easy, teams would be doing everything in their power to draft/sign them. The Packers would be like, "woah what? You can run them up the seams? DRAFT EVERY TE! IT'S THAT EASY." The Eagles would have abused Celek/Ertz in 2013. The Colts wouldn't be drafting a WR in the first. I just really, really get the feeling that all of these coaches, and every coach/coordinator in history, probably know a bit more than you.
Can you understand why we cannot explicitly tell you how to stop it, but we can explain why it probably isn't so simple that a fan has figured out a way to break the NFL?
You think that Hill, who was the best back in the NFL in the second half of the season, despite not getting many carries in a few games, is only a "good back"? I guess he has to break Hall of Fame numbers, right? Just being one of the best in the league isn't good enough?
I don't think the Bengals have the best set-up in history at tight end, but you claim that Kroft isn't that good because he's a 3rd round pick, when, if you were educated on anything about the team and didn't just post bullshit, you'd know that the Bengals had him as our top rated TE on the draft board. Maybe you are educated enough to know that, but you leave it out because it doesn't fit your argument.
Receiving tight ends don't grow on trees, and not many backs can run as good as Hill without a fullback, and not to mention that not many teams have a receiver with AJ's talent.
So explain why it's not as simple of logic with Hill and AJ, not to mention TEs of the talent that we have.
(07-21-2015, 11:01 PM)Harmening Wrote: Stop. You never proved him wrong...
lol.......... him posting a long reply with a bunch of garbage doesn't make it more credible than a short answer with garbage.