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I feel bad for Andy
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(12-26-2016, 12:21 PM)bfine32 Wrote: What is funny is that Andy is finishing his 6th year as an NFL QB and his passer rating in seasons he has completed is:
20th
13th
15th
25th
15th (Currently)

and folks suggest he has been anything other than mid-tier.

Given, he was having a fine 2015 season that ws unfortunately cut short by injury. We have no idea how he would have finished down the stretch, if it were a similar ending as this year; he woud has tumbled quite a bit.

Give him the benefit of the doubt (I'm sure you blindly will) and say he would have finished 2015 Top 10, it would have been the only time in his 6 year career. 

Andy has done nothing to prove that he is anything more than a serviceable starter in the NFL and I'm good with that; as a few teams don't have that. But the "Andy is great" narrative has no backing by other that a few in this forum and with 0 proof. 

Andy is top 10 among active players in passer rating. Considering that he never finished higher than 13th in any year you didn't conveniently exclude, that can only mean one thing, right? That other QBs have had less consistency or worse "down years"? I can't think of any other way to explain why Dalton's career passer rating ranks better than his individual years. 

With that said, I'll take the QB who has consistently been good over the scrubs who periodically rise above him. Say Kaepernick, Hoyer, McCown,   Foles, and other one year wonders that can't hang with Dalton on a year to year basis. In short, the QB who ranks 9th among active players and 14th all time in passer rating is not "mid tier".

As for your exclusion of 2016 due to some mythical tumble, Dalton is on a 2 game streak of sub par games. A 60 rating and an 84 rating (which isn't all that bad...nevermind what he's dealing with). Those followed ratings of 130 and 112. So really I'm not sure why you're acting like he's in a late season plunge. 

Just for the sake of discussion though, if you take these last 2 games and add them twice each to make up for the 4 games Dalton missed in 2015, his passer rating would've dropped all the way to 98.0, which would've ranked 8th in the league in 2015. And that's pretty close to a worst case scenario.
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I feel bad for Andy - Trademark - 12-25-2016, 08:25 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Awful Llama - 12-25-2016, 09:59 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Nately120 - 12-25-2016, 10:01 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Fan_in_Kettering - 12-30-2016, 04:42 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - JumboTron - 12-30-2016, 04:56 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - RASCAL - 12-25-2016, 10:11 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - HarleyDog - 12-25-2016, 11:10 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Awful Llama - 12-25-2016, 12:40 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Aquapod770 - 12-25-2016, 11:12 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - jason - 12-25-2016, 11:18 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Whatever - 12-25-2016, 06:10 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - BengalChris - 12-26-2016, 07:05 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - treee - 12-25-2016, 12:36 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Nately120 - 12-25-2016, 01:11 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - McC - 12-25-2016, 01:31 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Derrick - 12-25-2016, 02:55 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Always a Bengal - 12-25-2016, 12:44 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - treee - 12-25-2016, 01:15 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Shake n Blake - 12-25-2016, 04:51 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - jason - 12-25-2016, 05:55 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Shake n Blake - 12-25-2016, 06:06 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Vas Deferens - 12-25-2016, 06:06 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Jpoore - 12-25-2016, 06:12 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - TheLeonardLeap - 12-25-2016, 07:14 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - SHRacerX - 12-26-2016, 11:37 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Daddy-O - 12-26-2016, 11:52 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - fortyyearfan - 12-26-2016, 08:08 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - OBX Bengal - 12-25-2016, 06:27 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Awful Llama - 12-25-2016, 07:46 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-26-2016, 12:51 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - SHRacerX - 12-26-2016, 11:41 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - McC - 12-26-2016, 12:13 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Derrick - 12-26-2016, 02:43 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Shake n Blake - 12-26-2016, 02:54 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - James Brooks - 12-26-2016, 01:33 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - SunsetBengal - 12-26-2016, 04:47 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bengalfan74 - 12-26-2016, 07:47 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - SunsetBengal - 12-26-2016, 07:52 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-26-2016, 08:27 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - SunsetBengal - 12-26-2016, 09:14 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - fredtoast - 12-27-2016, 11:02 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Wyche'sWarrior - 12-27-2016, 11:07 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-27-2016, 07:32 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-27-2016, 07:52 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Rubekahn29 - 12-27-2016, 08:17 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-27-2016, 08:36 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Shake n Blake - 12-27-2016, 08:47 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-27-2016, 09:20 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Shake n Blake - 12-27-2016, 10:13 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Nately120 - 12-27-2016, 09:36 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-27-2016, 09:45 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Hoofhearted - 12-28-2016, 11:46 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - fredtoast - 12-28-2016, 11:58 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - fortyyearfan - 12-26-2016, 08:18 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Wyche'sWarrior - 12-26-2016, 01:42 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Brownshoe - 12-26-2016, 02:01 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-26-2016, 12:21 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Shake n Blake - 12-26-2016, 02:17 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-26-2016, 04:30 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - fredtoast - 12-26-2016, 04:34 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-26-2016, 05:00 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - fredtoast - 12-26-2016, 05:59 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-26-2016, 06:34 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Derrick - 12-26-2016, 08:27 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - fredtoast - 12-26-2016, 03:00 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-26-2016, 04:33 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - fredtoast - 12-28-2016, 11:23 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-28-2016, 04:50 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - fredtoast - 12-29-2016, 04:41 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - fredtoast - 12-29-2016, 04:57 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Shake n Blake - 12-29-2016, 06:47 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-29-2016, 06:56 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Shake n Blake - 12-29-2016, 07:19 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - OrlandoBengal - 12-30-2016, 06:36 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Shake n Blake - 12-30-2016, 08:36 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-29-2016, 06:51 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Brownshoe - 12-29-2016, 08:22 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-29-2016, 09:37 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - fredtoast - 12-30-2016, 03:14 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-30-2016, 04:36 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Shake n Blake - 12-30-2016, 06:17 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-30-2016, 09:01 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Shake n Blake - 12-30-2016, 09:12 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-30-2016, 10:17 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Shake n Blake - 12-31-2016, 12:49 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - fredtoast - 12-30-2016, 08:15 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-30-2016, 09:04 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - fredtoast - 12-30-2016, 09:34 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Nicomo Cosca - 12-30-2016, 04:30 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Alleyviper13 - 12-26-2016, 02:28 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - TheLeonardLeap - 12-26-2016, 03:38 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Wyche'sWarrior - 12-26-2016, 11:18 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - SHRacerX - 12-27-2016, 01:11 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-26-2016, 12:24 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Wyche'sWarrior - 12-26-2016, 10:16 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-27-2016, 07:25 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Brownshoe - 12-27-2016, 12:08 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-27-2016, 07:29 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Brownshoe - 12-27-2016, 10:26 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-27-2016, 11:22 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Brownshoe - 12-27-2016, 11:29 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-27-2016, 11:42 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Brownshoe - 12-27-2016, 11:53 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-28-2016, 12:58 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Brownshoe - 12-28-2016, 01:09 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Shake n Blake - 12-26-2016, 06:20 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Fan_in_Kettering - 12-26-2016, 10:09 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - CanadianBengal - 12-27-2016, 03:09 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Shake n Blake - 12-27-2016, 09:57 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Wyche'sWarrior - 12-28-2016, 03:02 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Butchie Tiger - 12-30-2016, 09:09 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Shake n Blake - 12-30-2016, 10:00 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - milksheikh - 12-30-2016, 09:10 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Awful Llama - 12-30-2016, 09:43 PM

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