I feel bad for Andy

[Shake n Blake]

(12-27-2016, 07:32 PM)bfine32 Wrote: So are you saying it's all about numbers? If you think Andy is better than Luck and Stafford; that points to your football acumen, just don't expect anyone outside of the forum to agree with you much. 

And I'm still waiting for the 20-24 starting QBs clearly worse than Andy

The only arguments you've used to down Andy lately are (a) how often he has a passer rating over 90, and once it started looking likely that he'd finish 2016 with a 90+ rating, you switched to (b) his yearly rankings in passer rating.

Now that Fred has used your own standards against you, suddenly it's "stats don't matter"?

(12-27-2016, 07:52 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Here let me help you out. Here are the list of current starters. I will bold the ones I feel are clearly worse than Andy:

Tom Brady
Ryan Fitzpatrick*
Tyrod Taylor*
Ryan Tannehill*
Andrew Luck 
Marcus Mariota*
Tom Savage*
Ben Rothlisberger
Joe Flacco*
Robert Griffith*
Trevor Simmeon*
Alex Smith*
Derek Carr
Phillip Rivers*
Eli Manning*
Dak Prescot*
Kirk Cousins*
Carson Wentz*
Matt Ryan
Drew Brees
Jameis Winston*
Cam Newton*
Matt Stafford*
Sam Bradford*
Jay Cutler*
Aaron Rogers
Russel Wilson
Jared Goff*
Carson Palmer*
Colin Kaepernick*


There I gave you 8 now just give the other 12-16 that are clearly worse than Andy. 

The problem is the word "clearly". It implies that Dalton is a great deal better. Would I take Dalton over Newton and Stafford? Yes. Do I think Andy is "clearly" or a great deal better? No.

I put a star next to 22 QBs I would not trade Dalton for, straight up. Btw, you listed Luck twice, and without the duplicate, you only listed 30 QBs.