12-27-2016, 09:20 PM
(12-27-2016, 08:47 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: The only arguments you've used to down Andy lately are (a) how often he has a passer rating over 90, and once it started looking likely that he'd finish 2016 with a 90+ rating, you switched to (b) his yearly rankings in passer rating.
Now that Fred has used your own standards against you, suddenly it's "stats don't matter"?
The problem is the word "clearly". It implies that Dalton is a great deal better. Would I take Dalton over Newton and Stafford? Yes. Do I think Andy is "clearly" or a great deal better? No.
I put a star next to 22 QBs I would not trade Dalton for, straight up. Btw, you listed Luck twice, and without the duplicate, you only listed 30 QBs.
I didn't introduce the criteria of clearly, someone else did. Of course I use Andy's inability to consistently finish high each year in passer rating as proof that he is mid-tier. I was just determining the criteria we want to use to determine who i clearly better than whom. \
Ahh... Blake Bortles is who was missing; that clouds it a little bit, but I'll give Andy the nod over Blake; although, I'm not sure clearly.
So you've got Andy over:
Rivers
Smith
Cousins
Prescot.
Should we use numbers now?