01-12-2017, 02:30 PM
(01-12-2017, 02:10 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Interesting that Dalton had a higher PFF grade than 4 guys that were listed ahead of him, and they mention o-line struggles as an excuse for Rivers, Luck and Bradford, yet curiously make no mention that Dalton dealt with one of the worst o-lines in football.
That is a fair question. Here is an excerpt from an SI article -
http://www.si.com/nfl/2016/12/20/nfl-quarterback-situation-supporting-cast-rankings
"The offensive line, which is usually one of the best in the league, has taken a huge step back, and that’s trickled down to everything else. The defense is getting older and is no longer capable of holding opponents down. And losing A.J. Green to injury in the middle of the season has been a big problem.
QBR ranking: 17. MV-QB ranking: 17. Without a good supporting cast, Andy Dalton is average. Which is what most of us thought."
There is mention of the O-line regressing and that having a negative effect on everything else. The point is many (outside of a few loyalist here) view Dalton as a product of his surroundings.
He will do well when everything is in place...the problem is that almost never happens in the NFL over the course of a full season. He does not elevate the players around him...in effect he played to the level of his supporting cast. In other words he is capable of accomplishing what any average professional at is level could do.
Andy Dalton is like betting on the Horse in the derby that if luck would have it and all the best horses scratched or broke their legs he could beat the other half of the field. That is not a good bet.
He lacks the skill set, leadership and will to have a bad situation and make it better. Several of you have said had a great year (for Andy Dalton) this year. How many wins did that amount to? It was a terrible year for the team. Andy needed to be a gunslinger and try to hit big plays and take risks. Instead he checked down and protected the ball, had some pretty stats that amounted to a joke of a season.
We disagree on this apparently. I would rather have a QB thow 20+ ints trying to win in a tough year and deal with the fallout than have a guy have a good year and result in the same amount of wins. Andy did not press the team to be better...he relied on them to win the game and he just not loose it. A winner, or a leader plays with reckless abandonment in the face of a dire situation. Andy plays scared...weak leadership and it shows.
Pete Rose said what made him great was "I went to the plat to get a hit, not trying to NOT MAKE AN OUT.
Andy's mentality is the latter...average.
