Final Regular Season QB rankings

[Rhinocero23]

(01-13-2017, 02:11 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Another baseless claim backed only by opinion of what you saw. The numbers tell a different story.

All throws 7-9 yards: 14.3 yards on 55 completions
On 3rd and 4+: 13.5 yards on 72 completions
On 3rd and 7-9 (the exact throws you mention): a whopping 17.0 yards on 17 completions

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(01-13-2017, 02:20 PM)Rhinocero23 Wrote: I am not grasping what you presented. Do you have a link to these stats so we can get the entire picture.
Are your saying we only had 17 opportunities the entire year at 3rd & 7-9???  one a game????? In those opportunities we had the average was 17 yards? What was the longest??? Is this only the completions...not the throwaways or incompletes?

I am sure these numbers will have a lot of holes poked in them if we can see the chart you are using. 

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(01-13-2017, 02:46 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Lol. You grasp it just fine, you just don't want to admit you were wrong. You stated that Dalton completes too many passes on 3rd down that are well short of first down. Therefore the relevant stat to your point would be completions and how far Dalton's completions went on 3rd downs. I listed all of the above.

Dalton completed 17 of 34 passes on 3rd and 7-9. That would mean we had 34 such opportunities where we passed. Now is that completion % in this particular scenario impressive? Nope, but that wasn't your point.

Here's the link. Knock yourself out: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/D/DaltAn00/splits/2016/

I'm sure you'll find something else to talk about, because your point about Dalton throwing well short of the first down marker has already been disproven.

(01-13-2017, 03:17 PM)Rhinocero23 Wrote: Not sure you are correct anywhere but in your mind. 

Using your link 
Andy was 11/34 in first down conversion passing on 3rd 7-9 - 32% 
(6 of his 17 completions were less than what was needed. Inflating his completion % to an impressive 50% total fluff)
on 3rd & 10 or more he was 10/52 for first downs. - 19.23%
(20 of his 30 completions were less than what was needed. Inflating his completion % to a WHOPPING 57% total fluff)

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/alex/2017/alex-season-review

This shows specifically how a QB does in 3rd down situations when passing.
Overall Andy is ranked 20th out of 34 qualifying QB's
On 3rd and short Andy is rated 18th of 34.
On 3rd and mid Andy does his best work and is rated 9th (well done) of 34.
On 3rd and long Andy is rated 29th of 34


What is it you are trying to say...because I said he is not a risk taker and does not do well pushing the ball down the field to the sticks on third and long. These are the facts to prove it.

Are you going to respond or can we agree on this point?