01-25-2017, 01:53 PM
(01-25-2017, 01:26 PM)Rhinocero23 Wrote: Like I have said many times....he is mid-tier. Could he have lead one of the New England teams, or Steelers teams to one of their recent Super Bowls...probably. I have never said he is a liability. I do not do believe he could do what Newton, Manning, Manning, Palmer, Flacco, Ryan, Rivers and others have done with less talented teams. THE ARGUMENT IS NOT CAN HE WIN WITH A STACKED TEAM...it is does he possess the talent and leadership to win in the playoffs here? to date the FACT is no he does not.
When have Ryan, Rivers, Palmer or Newton done more with less talent?
Ryan, Palmer and Newton produced more with BETTER talent and coaching. When the chips were down, they went down as well...in many different years each.
Rivers hasn't done much of note despite having good/great RB's, solid WRs and a HOF TE his whole career.
The training, nutrition, medicine, fitness, playbooks and rules evolve. The athlete does not.
