Tom Brady and Andy Dalton against Texans

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(01-25-2017, 01:48 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: 1. Who is being more realistic? The one claiming that the guy listed as a top 5 MVP candidate was an MVP candidate? Or the guy bending over backwards to explain why unworthy players were listed? Let me ask you this: What if Russell Wilson went 4-0 with 1500 yards and 15 TDs over those last 4 games? You don't feel he would've had a shot? That's all I'm saying. Dalton was being recognized for a fine season and was within striking distance of the MVP award. I'm not wrong.

2. How is an end of season article more accurate? Dalton obviously took a tumble because he missed 4 games. The more accurate article would be the one from before Dalton got injured.

3. The problem with this logic is that Dalton was rarely if ever mentioned in the "honorable mention" or 10th or worse...prior to injury. Now I see why you picked an article from after his injury.

4. I could follow your logic that "writers just threw in a bunch of names" if Dalton was ranked like 11th. He was top 5 on most lists prior to injury.

5. I'm not sensitive to anything. I actually agree with this statement lol.

6. I view Dalton as equal - if not better - than Palmer. With better coaching, I think he'd compete with Boomer and Kenny for best QB in franchise history. I refuse to blame any QB/player on this team for playoff performance while Marvin Lewis is the HC. I've actually sat and tried to see things from y'all's point of view (that Dalton is simply a choker) and I just can't bring myself to blame Dalton when 3 other QBs and the entire damn team has choked 7 times under Marv. Can't logically do it, sorry.

7. Lol...BINGO. I wholeheartedly agree that Dalton belongs in the middle 60%...not the top or bottom 20%. If you define "mid-tier" that way, I agree. There are many good-not-great QB's who would fall in that 60% though. Stafford, Flacco, Luck and Alex Smith for example.

8. I sincerely don't believe the OP was straight up saying Dalton = Brady. Yall are twisting his post to an extreme to make one side look bad. Tsk tsk. This is why we can't have good conversations on here anymore.

9. If I say one thing you believe, then believe this: I am not a damn homer. In fact, I was always considered a hater until I started sticking up for the red head. I think Marvin Lewis is a weak coach that can't get his men prepared in the playoffs to save his life. I believe his conservative fingers have been all over the offense, particularly in the playoffs. I look at Andy and I just see yet another guy that's played well in the regular season only to mysteriously choke in postseason. Under Marv, it's a long list. So this is not about Andy love for me...it's about how much I think Marv sucks and I refuse to deflect blame from him.

Sums it up for me as well.....remember when were "haters" and kept defending ourselves as "realists" on the old board?  Who would have known we'd be labeled "homers" and still have to defend ourselves as "realists" a couple of short years later....