02-07-2017, 12:02 PM
(02-07-2017, 06:48 AM)kevin Wrote: You just made another reason why we can not let Kirkpatrick go to another team in March and have Pacman suspended a year or kicked out of NFL forever. Then we would be down to Dennard and rookie first game Jackson.
Also at this point, look, in 2015 Pacman lost his long time legal fight against 2007 Las Vegas Shootings and forced to pay 13 million to one person and another million to an injured nightclub worker. in 2017 arrested on felonies and misdemeanor charges in Cincinnati. Those are legal. Then there is Burficts hard hit penalty did not put Steelers in game winning field goal range with just seconds left, bur Pacman getting violent after the play did put Steelers in position to just walk out and kick play-off game winning field goal. You could easily say that all of Pacmans off the field violence from 2005 on came out in that play-off losing penalty.
So the choice of letting The Pacman go and putting that money towards keeping the younger and our top CB Kirkpatrick is a very easy choice. This is not rocket science. Do we resign out best CB in Kirkpatrick OR hang on to an aging player of declining skills who is again back in legal trouble for a guy who has his NFL career has had many felonies and misdemeanors since 2005. You would think keeping Kirkpatrick and Terminating Pacman would be a no brainer. Plus, if the NFL does not suspend Pacman who was suspended a year for the 2007 shooting thing and also later 4 games for another nightclub brawl, then the NFL makes no sense. Then Thurman being suspended for life was way over the top and NFL was just wrong. Then all these suspensions of Burfict for playing hard just wrong. If Pacman doesn't get suspended or thrown out of NFL after his NFL criminal history, then nobody should ever get suspended and the NFL owes the late Henry family an apology for all his suspensions. There is no defense for Pacman who the NFL had suspended from the game a year and let back in on the terms he must stay out of trouble with the law.
Do you know that in about 20 or 30 days we lose Kirkpatrick to another team. The clock is ticking on Kirkpatrick gone. Hey, Mike Brown and Family, if your plan was to let him leave, you can't now. This Pacman that you signed to a high contract is in deep trouble with the law again on felony and misdemeanor charges from more late nigh, night club violence. The guy Never Learns. He is in deep, deep trouble with the law and NFL, but mostly the law because of his long, long past history of going before judges over felonies and misdemeanors. Judges look at that if NFL doesn't. Judges look at a first time offender or a Pacman being a 10 time loser. The judge will NOT be pleased reading his lifetime of violence, drugs and arrests and his attacks on police which have been several times. This is NOT his first resisting arrest. ....So Mr Brown, the clock is ticking on Kirkpatrick leaving. You know what you have to do now in February to keep Kirkpatrick early in March. You have to TERMINATE PACMAN. Get him to the Chopper.
July 2005 : Arrested for assault and felony vandalism at a nightclub.
Sept 2005 : In another incident with Police they notice he is in violation of not reporting to parole officer from July arrest.
Feb 2006 : Arrested and courts drooped marijuana charges while focusing on felony and misdemeanor charges of obstruction of justice.
Aug 2006 : Arrested for disorderly conduct and public intoxication in a night club. Judge gave him 6 months probation provided he stay out of trouble.
Oct 2006 : Arrested for misdemeanor assault in another night club. Titans suspend him one game.
Feb 2007 : The Las Vegas Shooting Case. Jones charged with one count of felony coercion, one misdemeanor count of battery and one misdemeanor count of threat to life.
2007 : NFL Suspends him a year for this.
June 2007 a civil suit filed against Jones.
November 2007 : Jones accepts a plea deal of no contest to misdemeanor of disorderly conduct in Feb incident. He was given a one year prison sentence but suspended on probation and 200 hours community service time.
Oct 2008 : After altercation with his body guard, NFL suspends Jones another 4 games.
Jan 2012 : Judge rules in favor of 2007 civil suit. Jones lawyers appeal.
Jan 2015 : Jones loses appeal and forced to pay one person 13 million and also an injured nightclub worker 1 million in the Feb 2007 Las Vegas shooting.
Jan 2017, This Year : Jones arrested for obstructing official business, disorderly conduct, assault, and felony charge of harassment with a bodily substance.
Now the Hamilton County Judge is going to look at this very long criminal record in ways you sports fans won't. This is not just the 2017 incident. All of his prison and jail time suspended probation also come into play here. It's a very long list or priors. The judge could throw the book at him. The NFL should say enough is enough....but today, right now, Bengals should Terminate him and tell him to get to the chopper. Then focus on resigning Kirkpatrick before he goes to another team in 20 or 30 days. ...Sources on internet say Bengals don't have to mention the legal mess, and can say cutting Pacman due to decline in his play. He is older and is on the decline. They can Terminate him TODAY on football reasons without team getting on record on the legal. He should be going to the chopper TODAY, so we can begin resigning Kirkpatrick.
If the goal is SUPER BOWL, How can Bengals say Pacman fits into that goal. Patriots wouldn't. you KNOW Patriots wouldn't. If Super Bowl is the Goal, then Pacman needs Terminated.
Oh I'm a fan of pacman as is wjiii don't get me wrong but we have more than enough in cap space to sign all three big free agents. ESPECIALLY with only 2 free agents of note next year. He played bad first couple of games but played above average at the least last 10 games. Also we should be able to sign Dre k no problem with all the big time cornerbacks out there right now. Say what u want about pacman but him defending Antonio Brown is always a good thing considering he averages 40 yard less per game against us.