Has the rebuild begun?

[Shake n Blake]

(02-15-2017, 12:03 AM)Murdock2420 Wrote: True rebuilds don't happen in the NFL. It's a case of you have a good coach and have a good QB or you don't. Teams that have the combination of good coach and good QB = winners. Mediocre coach with decent QB = middle of the pack. No QB or Bad coach = dumpster fire.

Look at Seattle, dumpster fire...gets Russel Wilson and he fits the scheme of Pete Carroll and they are a quality team. Sure, they have a good defense, but honestly in today's NFL it's all about the QB.

Matt Ryan is a great QB, but didn't have the coach and scheme he needed till this year. New coach...and Super Bowl. The Colts were competitive with nothing besides Peyton and Harrison.

The only real rebuild is drafting a new franchise QB and not striking out.

1. Dumpster fire is a bit harsh. Seattle was 7-9 for two straight years, including a division title and an upset playoff win over the Saints. Getting Wilson helped, but that team was just young and on the rise at the time.

2. The Matt Ryan situation is just more proof of how important good coaching and scheme are. Ryan was in his 2nd season with a good coordinator, great run game and great weapons. He produced an MVP season. That reminds me of when Dalton was in his 2nd season with Hue Jackson and had a mediocre run game and excellent weapons. He produced an MVP caliber season despite a weak run game.

We already have a good QB. We need better coaching.

(02-15-2017, 10:15 PM)Nately120 Wrote: I get what you are saying, but I wouldn't call Palmer and Dalton both strike-outs.  I can't imagine most HCs and franchises that wouldn't be able to get a single playoff win out of 13 years of Palmer and Dalton, but that's just speculation.

Exactly. Even the most pessimistic people will admit Palmer and Dalton were at least slightly above average. Good enough to win playoff games with. Especially considering we've lost to the likes of Yates, Sanchez and the washed up version of Schaub.

(02-15-2017, 10:57 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: And the Mr. Obvious Award goes to...

We have the 2nd oldest starting defense in the NFL. Also, we have the oldest starting Tackle in the NFL. It's quite obvious that the Bengals have to rebuild.

Do we clearly need to rebuild the o-line? Yes.

Do we clearly need to rebuild the whole roster? No.

This team can get back to losing wild card games with one smart off-season. Now do I think they'll have the big off-season necessary? Doubtful. We'll need a home run draft because I think the FA period will be a loss.